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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

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    Well, we don't have an imperial Presidency here and the Queen keeps her nose clean and stays in England.
    Tell that to Germany. Or Spain. Or Russia. Or France.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    It was inexcusable not to have continously explain what the US agencies were doing, why and how they are controlled. That should have started before Bush and it was negligent to an extreme not to have done so, since the capabilities have grown so much and we have been criticizing countries like China for their data mining.
    Well, see, when other people do it, it's tyranny. When we do it, it's in defense of liberty, and therefor, sacred.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Our corporate tax rate is significantly lower than in the US, but the effective tax rate is a little harder to determine, based on which jurisdiction a company may set up shop. Paying for labour and services in Canadian dollars - now at a three year low against the American dollar - would be a cost saving, and it's not as if such operations rely on transporting a product to market, increasing costs the further away from US hubs you locate.

    All of the major players have operations in Canada - just seeing a chunk of this niche moving north because of the NSA actions would be a whole other type of move.
    I think even Quebec has lower corporate taxes and Quebec would probably be one of the provinces they go to since it is the high-tech and highly educated province.

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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You think the NSA can't get that ****? They'll get it.
    Well, I certainly don't know the legal ramifications for a US company like Google, should the NSA come knocking and Google has all its data stored in Canada or some other jurisdiction. They may be coerced into bringing it back, however, if they have to rely on Canadian courts to give them access, they likely won't have the same ease of access.
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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    I think even Quebec has lower corporate taxes and Quebec would probably be one of the provinces they go to since it is the high-tech and highly educated province.
    Provincial taxes are likely going to be higher there, but I'm not sure.
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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Well, I certainly don't know the legal ramifications for a US company like Google, should the NSA come knocking and Google has all its data stored in Canada or some other jurisdiction. They may be coerced into bringing it back, however, if they have to rely on Canadian courts to give them access, they likely won't have the same ease of access.
    Courts?


    You're not familiar with our "Patriot Act", are you?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Well, see, when other people do it, it's tyranny. When we do it, it's in defense of liberty, and therefor, sacred.
    It would make it easier, if it were that simple.

    You do know that there is a difference between instruments and motives?

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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Provincial taxes are likely going to be higher there, but I'm not sure.
    I looked at it and Quebec is rivalling other provinces and is far lower than the U.S.. The only reason taxes are high in Quebec is due to those payroll taxes, which Quebec has a way of reducing taxes for certain businesses (the video-games industry for example) and also these are California companies so they should be used to it. Quebec is the highest taxed jurisdiction in North America but only if the province doesn't like your business.

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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Courts?


    You're not familiar with our "Patriot Act", are you?
    Yes, I am - but last time I checked, Canada was still a sovereign nation.
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    Re: NSA Fallout - Canada selling itself as haven for US tech giants

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And besides...what makes anyone think Canada is any safer from the NSA than anywhere else?
    Not safer than the spying but less chance of forced cooperation and being forced to turn over records.

    Or maybe just the principle of it. Honestly, the USA seems to be moving toward the NK approach of supreme dictatorship by the government. We are less and less "the land of the free". For most of us that changes nothing. But it is sad anyway.

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