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    Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Gates’ tell-all rattles White House, Congress – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    There is an interesting quote from him in the middle of this.

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    According to the New York Times account, Gates writes, "[Obama] eventually lost faith in the troop increase he ordered in Afghanistan, his doubts fed by top White House civilian advisers opposed to the strategy, who continually brought him negative news reports suggesting it was failing."


    So it looks like bias in the media doesn't just come to us but goes to the loser in charge too.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    I thought it would be Bill Gates... other Gates' don't matter that much because it most likely is political motivated speech.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    In a new memoir, former defense secretary Robert Gates unleashes harsh judgments about President Obama’s leadership and his commitment to the Afghanistan war, writing that by early 2010 he had concluded the president “doesn’t believe in his own strategy, and doesn’t consider the war to be his. For him, it’s all about getting out.”

    Leveling one of the more serious charges that a defense secretary could make against a commander in chief sending forces into combat, Gates asserts that Obama had more than doubts about the course he had charted in Afghanistan. The president was “skeptical if not outright convinced it would fail,” Gates writes in “Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War.”
    Robert Gates, former defense secretary, offers harsh critique of Obama’s leadership in ‘Duty’ - The Washington Post

    Obam has no core ideas, just wings it. Then surges it, and withdrawls it, and then wants to "transition it" with bases, but not permanent...(etc)
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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Robert Gates, former defense secretary, offers harsh critique of Obama’s leadership in ‘Duty’ - The Washington Post

    Obam has no core ideas, just wings it. Then surges it, and withdrawls it, and then wants to "transition it" with bases, but not permanent...(etc)
    That accurate progression of positions leaves me thinking 'dazed and confused'. Definitely not leadership qualities, but then, we all already knew that.

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    According to what I saw this morning on the news Gates drops the hammer on Obama big time. Well done RG.
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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Well why doesn't Obama just instruct the media to tell it his way? I mean, since they're just his propaganda arm and what not...


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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Well why doesn't Obama just instruct the media to tell it his way? I mean, since they're just his propaganda arm and what not...
    It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    In a new memoir of his time as secretary of defense in the Obama administration, Gates writes:

    Hillary told the president that her opposition to the [2007] surge in Iraq had been political because she was facing him in the Iowa primary. . . . The president conceded vaguely that opposition to the Iraq surge had been political. To hear the two of them making these admissions, and in front of me, was as surprising as it was dismaying.”

    Oomph. Just to jog your memory, Clinton announced that she opposed the Iraq surge being pushed by President George W. Bush in the days leading up to the announcement of her presidential bid.
    She instead proposed a freeze in troop levels in the country and advocated for a troop increase in Afghanistan.
    How Bob Gates’s memoir could haunt Hillary in 2016

    lying warmongers, both of these 2 opprtunists put politics ahead of so called "opposition" to the Iraqi surge.
    The war should never have been started, but the surge ( i supported) as a last ditch effort to stabilze the country.
    It should have been a no-brainer to support it. Had to at least try to clean up our mess.

    Looking back Biden's idea of partition was prolly the best idea, once we did fracture Iraq.
    The place is a gawd awful mess, al_Malaki is a stooge (etc)

    Either way to oppose war policy by political advantage shows the schemers Hillary and Obama both are.
    Screw them both
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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'
    Gates's book would be a first person source, as opposed to the news media coverage of the administration.

    There is a difference here that you seemed to have glossed over in your false equating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    How Bob Gates’s memoir could haunt Hillary in 2016

    lying warmongers, both of these 2 opprtunists put politics ahead of so called "opposition" to the Iraqi surge.
    The war should never have been started, but the surge ( i supported) as a last ditch effort to stabilze the country.
    It should have been a no-brainer to support it. Had to at least try to clean up our mess.

    Looking back Biden's idea of partition was prolly the best idea, once we did fracture Iraq.
    The place is a gawd awful mess, al_Malaki is a stooge (etc)

    Either way to oppose war policy by political advantage shows the schemers Hillary and Obama both are.
    Screw them both
    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    It is interesting how the President's political enemies can so easily switch from saying the national news media is nothing more than the "propaganda arm" of the Administration and the Dems - never to be believed - but as soon as a story comes out that is the least bit negative about the President, they believe every word. And then the usual suspects amplify the noise with selective quotes and 'analysis'

    Here are a couple more quotes from Gates' book
    in private, members of Congress could be reasonable. "But when they went into an open hearing, and the little red light went on atop a television camera, it had the effect of a full moon on a werewolf."
    Gates calls the president's decision to order Navy SEALs to raid a house in Pakistan believed to be the hiding place of Osama bin Laden "one of the most courageous decisions I had ever witnessed in the White House."
    "I never doubted Obama's support for the troops, only his support for their mission," Gates writes in the book, "Duty: Memoirs of a Secretary at War,"
    In his final chapter, Mr. Gates makes clear his verdict on the president’s overall Afghan strategy: “I believe Obama was right in each of these decisions.”

    Now we can wait and see if the President's enemies will ever note that last statement of former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates.
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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