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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    Robert Gates, former defense secretary, offers harsh critique of Obama’s leadership in ‘Duty’ - The Washington Post

    Obam has no core ideas, just wings it. Then surges it, and withdrawls it, and then wants to "transition it" with bases, but not permanent...(etc)
    In polite circles, that's called "flailing around, hoping something works.."

    Greetings, annata.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Gates’ tell-all rattles White House, Congress – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    There is an interesting quote from him in the middle of this.

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    According to the New York Times account, Gates writes, "[Obama] eventually lost faith in the troop increase he ordered in Afghanistan, his doubts fed by top White House civilian advisers opposed to the strategy, who continually brought him negative news reports suggesting it was failing."


    So it looks like bias in the media doesn't just come to us but goes to the loser in charge too.
    The bias is especially powerful when used against those with no core beliefs of their own.
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Is there really people who have no core beliefs?

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Seems like you are only reading the "snippets" you agree with
    Even a blind hog finds an acorn, from time to time.

    However, there's something seriously wrong when a CIC sends troops onto the battlefield, using a strategy that he doesn't believe will be successful; especially when it's HIS strategy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even a blind hog finds an acorn, from time to time.

    However, there's something seriously wrong when a CIC sends troops onto the battlefield, using a strategy that he doesn't believe will be successful; especially when it's HIS strategy.

    Evidently you don't read those words that contradict your deeply held beliefs, here the words are again - a bit larger this time

    In his final chapter, Mr. Gates makes clear his verdict on the president’s overall Afghan strategy: “I believe Obama was right in each of these decisions.”
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Evidently you don't read those words that contradict your deeply held beliefs, here the words are again - a bit larger this time

    In his final chapter, Mr. Gates makes clear his verdict on the president’s overall Afghan strategy: “I believe Obama was right in each of these decisions.”

    Obama didn't believe in his own strategy. What part of that don't you understand?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Even a blind hog finds an acorn, from time to time.

    However, there's something seriously wrong when a CIC sends troops onto the battlefield, using a strategy that he doesn't believe will be successful; especially when it's HIS strategy.
    You think that's good information for gates to be putting out there for the people we're fighting in A-Stan to hear. Think that might strengthen their resolve. Would you be complaining if someone had done this to Bush? And furthermore, just because Gates claims this, does that make it true. I realise it makes it easier to believe when it's just what you want to hear, but, I'm just asking.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama didn't believe in his own strategy. What part of that don't you understand?
    How do you know Obama didn't?

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    How do you know Obama didn't?
    Um, because Gates said so, in his book.

    Let me guess: "Gates is a liar!"..."oh, and a racist!"
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gates - Obama Fed Propaganda

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You think that's good information for gates to be putting out there for the people we're fighting in A-Stan to hear. Think that might strengthen their resolve. Would you be complaining if someone had done this to Bush? And furthermore, just because Gates claims this, does that make it true. I realise it makes it easier to believe when it's just what you want to hear, but, I'm just asking.
    Their resolve has been made rock solid, since they've figured out that Obama is a puss and that he doesn't have the balls to launch any kind of offensive. They've seen his performance in the Syria deal. Obama is the last cat in the world that anyone is afraid of.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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