Well again, denied overt support as the US was, I suppose that help was as extensive as it could be covertly. But I didn't coin the phrase "modest help" and he who did, didn't define what it meant to him, initially. It should also be remembered that Russia was doing their fair share to counter any US efforts. And I should also point out that we are inviting a moderators warning for veering so far from topic. There is other threads that have discussed this in depth.
I think the modest help referred to would include those items which are an effective counter to the force the rebels faced. Modest in this case would refer to an amount of assistance and not the nature of it. Were we to offer assistance to the rebels similar in kind to that the Russians have supplied Assad with, it would include some of the most sophisticated weapons in our arsenal. We did have an opportunity to offer meaningful but modest assistance of such a nature to the rebels before the extremist element compromised their effort, but we let it pass. That was a mistake.
I can only blame him for surrounding himself with people that would hide the facts and feed is propoganda.
Originally Posted by donsutherland1
On this, I can't blame the President. I expected that there would be limits on what the surge could accomplish so long as the U.S. maintained a Karzai-centric strategy. Unfortuntely, it did. IMO, the muddled outcome to date is not surprising. Mr. Karzai has been and remains a big part of the problem with his corruption, cronyism, and provincialism.
LOL Gates is an idiot. Those aides were telling the truth! Who wants to volunteer to be the LAST American to be killed in that hole? Obama knows that all we need is drones to kill off the Taliban leaders.
......and the hearts and minds of the people? The idiot is not Gates it is rather, the dope smoking pig in the White House that never served his country.....whichever country he was born in.
Think if Trump get elected how much resistance he will face with in all phases of our country from people to military to politicians. He must not win.