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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    I usually just stick my balls in the mash potatoes.
    Post an iphone video of that sometime , Chuck. I'm sure a lot of folks would watch. Especially the atheists. Well, except for one atheist....<-------me. I'm not into watching masochistic stuff.

    Other than that...how was the holidays?

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    Atheists are the least trusted group in America. Even gay people are more trusted.
    They are vilified, marginalized even hated.
    One does tend to get tired of the treatment.
    Only since the internet can atheists find each other without the exposure to ridicule. We are finding there are more of us out there than thought possible.
    Even Gay people, huh?

    Well good that you can all gather together and do some public good. Build a hospital perhaps. Become a Missionary. There must be something you can do to gain public trust again.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    I don't really agree. I don't see any how the Ten Commandments had any significant to western civilization.

    1). No other gods.
    2). No idols
    3). Don't blaspheme
    4). Remember the Sabbath
    5). Honor your parents
    6). Don't murder
    7). Don't cheat on your spouse
    8). Don't steal
    9). Don't purger
    10). Don't lust

    How do they relate to western civilization? The first three are in violation of the 1st Amendment. Four five and ten are ignored and seven is a civil matter.

    That leaves you with three: don't murder, steal, or lie under oath. These are laws in every civilization that has ever lived; including every civilization we know of that predates the Ten Commandments.

    So you really can't trace back any western laws or legal structure to the Ten Commandments. If you want to display something significant, use Hammurabi's Code.
    They are laws for their time. Don't follow them if you don't care to but meanwhile, in a court if law, it is a good reminder not to lie.. And the OT should not be taken alone without the NT.

    Hammurabi has had a profound effect on your life or are you just blowing smoke here?

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    So atheists are to blame for their discrimination because they speak out about their lack of belief?
    Does anyone really care if you are an atheist? I've never had any problems.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Even Gay people, huh?

    Well good that you can all gather together and do some public good. Build a hospital perhaps. Become a Missionary. There must be something you can do to gain public trust again.
    From a post 9/11 U Minn study:

    This group does not at all agree with my vision of American society...

    Atheist: 39.6%
    Muslims: 26.3%
    Homosexuals: 22.6%
    Hispanics: 20%
    Conservative Christians: 13.5%
    Recent Immigrants: 12.5%
    Jews: 7.6%


    I would disapprove if my child wanted to marry a member of this group....

    Atheist: 47.6%
    Muslim: 33.5%
    African-American 27.2%
    Asian-Americans: 18.5%
    Hispanics: 18.5%
    Jews: 11.8%
    Conservative Christians: 6.9%
    Whites: 2.3%

    gallup-atheists.jpg

    All this because of the mistaken belief that one cannot be moral with a god. Don't tell the Buddhists, Jainists and other religious atheists that, because they might realize they can now justify raping and pillaging!!!
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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    How are they going to prove the 10 commandments are historical?
    Given the length of time that the Ten Commandments have been written down that would make it historical.

    The only evidence of the existence for the commandments comes religious books.
    And scrolls and fragments. Some of which are very old.

    The other cited documents exist.
    They do at that.


    Loop hole creation fail.
    Sorta, I think that as I suggested that opens up a whole area of "documents" that would be allowed if the Legislature decides to adopt this method. The documentary of the Law of Thelma would be a complement or analogous to that the Satanic statue under current regs.

    Likewise a monument for the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" would be considered a historical document though that one is a known forgery and would still be allowed since it is "historical".

    I am really looking forward to the various groups that would troll if this were adopted.
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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    If you are going to quote me please quote me correctly. I've got no time for people who invent conversations or quotes.
    Huh? Are you serious? I quoted your entire post not half an inch above that statement. What I did was called paraphrasing. I summarized your inconsistent, playing-the-victim whining into a shorter statement.

    For some reason you think that because you're a christian you should have special powers to erect religious monuments on government property while everyone else should be barred from doing so. There isn't a single ounce of respect for equality in your entire body.
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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    Yep, just less well known.

    From the Code Of Ur-Nammu
    1. If a man commits a murder, that man must be killed.
    2. If a man commits a robbery, he will be killed.
    3. If a man commits a kidnapping, he is to be imprisoned and pay 15 shekels of silver.
    28. If a man appeared as a witness, and was shown to be a perjurer, he must pay fifteen shekels of silver. (25)

    There are also 3 or so laws against adultery.

    And this is Ur, which pre-dates Abraham on the Biblical timeline. So after you remove the Commandments that western culture ignores (Remember the Sabbath, Honor your parents, and Don't Covet), the laws that already existed in previous nearby cultures, then all you're left with are commandments to worship the Judeo-Christian god.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    They are laws for their time. Don't follow them if you don't care to but meanwhile, in a court if law, it is a good reminder not to lie.. And the OT should not be taken alone without the NT.

    Hammurabi has had a profound effect on your life or are you just blowing smoke here?
    The point is that the Ten Commandments haven't had much of an effect on Western Civilization. Which laws or judicial philosophies originated with the ten commandments? Bans against murder, theft, lying, and adultery have existed since at least Ur (ie before Abraham on the Biblical timeline). Innocent before being proven guilty and the right to a fair trial? That's Hammurabi. A trial by 12 jurors comes from the Vikings.

    The Ten Commandments ia a purely religious text. There's nothing wrong with that, but it's not possible to make an intelligent argument to install the ten commandments in any public space for their historical significance. Their only significance is religious.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    I always hear about obnoxious atheists pushing their views on others, but I rarely see it. I do however see the religious knocking on doors, talking on tv, on the radio, about how you're a bad person going to hell if you're not one of them. I also hear them complaining about how they're discriminated against, not allowed to force their views on others in school, in government, everywhere they can.

    Always the victim.

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