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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Anomalism View Post
    You're the first to get that.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    What the hell? I'm very disappointed. The statue is not nearly as Heavy Metal as I hoped. I was thinking it would be something like a big nasty goat devil ravaging a hot naked virgin chick on a sacrificing altar. What the hell kind of satanists are these? Tell them to take their lame ass statue and GTFO.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post


    Holy smoke. A thread about a satanist statue turns into a bash discussion of atheists? On what planet is the worship of satan as a god relevant to people who don't believe that god(s) exist in the first place??
    Just some inaccurate statements were made and needed to be corrected.
    Atheists just need to put a blank placard at the capitol.
    The religious right are not thinking things through. Thankfully the founding fathers weren't just a bunch homogenous christians otherwise the US would have been a theocracy from the beginning. Imagine if they had all been puritans?
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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Maybe they were just goth or emo kids.

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    What the hell? I'm very disappointed. The statue is not nearly as Heavy Metal as I hoped. I was thinking it would be something like a big nasty goat devil ravaging a hot naked virgin chick on a sacrificing altar. What the hell kind of satanists are these? Tell them to take their lame ass statue and GTFO.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Morton View Post
    Comparative religions. I tried to tie it together with my watching-basketball post. There's obviously intercepting attributes. Many atheists have more baggage then what a disbelief in something would carry. Some aren't even even truly atheists - they're simply anti-deist or anti-Xtian. As are Satanists.
    could you define anti-deist?

    either someone believes the theistic claim or they don't. It is like pregnancy: either you are or you are not, there is no middle ground.
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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    Actually it really is just disbelief.
    There is nothing to stop someone who is atheist to take it to the 'next level' and declare 'there are no gods'. And you would be right, it is a truth statement about about one of the competing claims regarding the existence of gods.
    I don't think most atheists will go there, not any more. Atheists don't need to go there. Whether they disbelieve theistic claims or there are actually no gods it amounts to the same thing for atheists.
    Atheists content with their non belief don't have any reason to flame the religious and they don't. For someone to have contempt for the religious, though, there has to be a "true" statement (in their mind) such that failing to acknowledge that "truth" makes someone just delusional, wrong, stupid, ect. That "true" statement rallying point is, "There is no God" and that is an affirmative statement.

    I think we really need a different word to describe the people that make an affirmative statement of belief that gods don't exist. Anti-theist? Non theist? Otherwise you have the same word designating 2 separate stances.
    That's fair and I have used anti-theist before. Unfortunately, unless we all agree with doing that, it won't actually change anything.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by Morton View Post
    Satanists are Xtians in that they believe in Christ but don't like Xtianity. Atheists like Jesus but don't like Xtians. I would guess that Atheists hate Xtians more than Satanists. Atheists seem to be more dogmatic but Satanists but both Atheists and Satanists tend to be Internet buttheads.
    Now I am completely confused.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    I've ran into a few people who believed in God but hated his will, permissive will or lack of action. Like the Satanists, they're few in number but they're out there.

    Then there are some who can only seem to come up with how the Xtian god is such a dick and thats why they don't believe in him or any other gods. They don't usually have a strong grasp on their arguments or the topic itself but they too are out there.


    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    could you define anti-deist?

    either someone believes the theistic claim or they don't. It is like pregnancy: either you are or you are not, there is no middle ground.

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    Re: Satanists Unveil 7-Foot Baphomet Statue For Oklahoma State Capitol

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Atheists content with their non belief don't have any reason to flame the religious and they don't. For someone to have contempt for the religious, though, there has to be a "true" statement (in their mind) such that failing to acknowledge that "truth" makes someone just delusional, wrong, stupid, ect. That "true" statement rallying point is, "There is no God" and that is an affirmative statement.

    That's fair and I have used anti-theist before. Unfortunately, unless we all agree with doing that, it won't actually change anything.
    Then let us agree on that. Eventually the usage will become common and the confusion will disappear.
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