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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    There are hate crime convictions against straight white males.
    Really? Hell, you'd think that I would've heard about it on the news. The public loves "man bites dog" stories.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    In the US, hate speech must be targeted at a population that borders on stereotypical clichť. If you're not perceived as "protected", go fist yourself.
    Not only is hate speech allowed in the US, a white man can burn a cross on the lawn of a black family and not be convicted of a hate speech law (this actually happened). The supreme court ruled unanimously that the law banning it was unconstitutional.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Because no one committed theft.
    Hacking is a crime for the same reason stealing your literature would be: the website IS someone's property


    I never said they dont have the right to hack i said people have the right to speak out against them.
    Which you used to defend the activity of "hacking"

    Me just posting this is speaking out against them. What Anon did was draw attention to this group, and they also committed a criminal act. What they did was direct action.
    Right, like someone dumping your pamphlets in the trash. Calling it "direct action" doesn't make any less despicable

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Not only is hate speech allowed in the US, a white man can burn a cross on the lawn of a black family and not be convicted of a hate speech law (this actually happened). The supreme court ruled unanimously that the law banning it was unconstitutional.
    I'm good with that. I would, however, support the cross-burner be charged with trespassing, vandalism, etc.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm good with that. I would, however, support the cross-burner be charged with trespassing, vandalism, etc.
    Yeah, other crimes can of course be levied upon him, just not ones banning the speech itself. SCOTUS addressed that in the opinion.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Really? Hell, you'd think that I would've heard about it on the news. The public loves "man bites dog" stories.
    Anytime there is no other motive and the accused is a member/has propaganda against the victim, there is a hate crime investigation. It's not about protected classes, hate crimes can be against anyone, it's about terrorism (organized and acted upon) being more harmful to society than regular crime.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Hacking is a crime for the same reason stealing your literature would be: the website IS someone's property
    Hacking is not theft because its not stealing anything. Its entering the website and controlling it and you can alter the materials on the website.


    Which you used to defend the activity of "hacking"
    I support this action of hacking yes.

    Right, like someone dumping your pamphlets in the trash. Calling it "direct action" doesn't make any less despicable
    I dont have any pamphlets.
    But yes direct action can be seen as despicable.


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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    And that still limits their ability to promote and spread their message/speech. Sorry, that doesn't simply change because it's speech you disagree with
    It limits their front page...


    Right, just like if I burnt your pamplets you would still be able to speak in public, reprint them, make a website, etc. But that doesn't change the fact that I still limited your ability to speak at one point by burning your pamplets.
    Once again its like you burning the cover "of one of my pamphlets". You can still read the pamphlet just doesnt have a nice pretty picture on the front


    LOL, sometimes I'm left wondering if you're seriously this daft, or just some RW idiot's Poe-account


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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Anytime there is no other motive and the accused is a member/has propaganda against the victim, there is a hate crime investigation. It's not about protected classes, hate crimes can be against anyone, it's about terrorism (organized and acted upon) being more harmful to society than regular crime.
    All I heard was "thoughtcrime" - an incredibly fascist construct.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    An illegal violation is an illegal violation. This isn't like stealing bread to survive. You purport criminal activity, like every other bloodthirsty socialist ideologue.

    I'm sure that there are a ton of other revolutionaries in Philosophy 101.

    Then i guess stealing a candy bar is equated to murder then in your book.
    And actually no there werent.
    And every socialist is a "bloodthirsty ideologue". I can name way more socialists that are not "blood thirsty ideologues".


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