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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If a white person (all else being equal) attacks a white person solely because that person is white, and the attacker is a member of a white hate group and has white hate propaganda, being white is not a defense.
    Ahhh, ok. I'll tell you honestly that I'm not a big fan of "hate" crime legislation. We have it in Texas but it's rarely used. All it does is make crimes tougher to prove, because now you have to prove motive. Also, it seems oddly applied. For example, why is not all rape committed against women considered a hate crime? I also admit there is some part of me that bristles just a little at the implication that an assault against me is somehow just less bad. **** that, all crimes against me personally should be capital crimes.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Is this different from the never prosecuted Bush lynching photos?
    Or the play about assassinating him?

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

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    Or the play about assassinating him?
    It is even easier to prove free speech because the people are public officials.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Ahhh, ok. I'll tell you honestly that I'm not a big fan of "hate" crime legislation. We have it in Texas but it's rarely used. All it does is make crimes tougher to prove, because now you have to prove motive. Also, it seems oddly applied.
    Hate crimes are only prosecuted in clear cases of basically terrorism. No other motive for the crime, and attacker is a member of a hate group. Such things don't take much time to discover.

    For example, why is not all rape committed against women considered a hate crime.
    Because it is only a hate crime when the crime is committed ONLY for the purpose of striking fear into a population, and ONLY when the attacker is a member of a hate group and/or has hate group propaganda against the victim in their possession.

    I also admit there is some part of me that bristles just a little at the implication that an assault against me is somehow just a little less bad. **** that, all crimes against me personally should be capital crimes.
    Hate crime is worse for society than if someone attacks you for money or revenge. Random victims being targeted in an organized effort for the sole purpose of striking terror is a much greater harm and danger for society as a whole. It's similar to the difference between 2nd and 1st degree murder, but with much larger implications resulting from the motive.
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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Is this different from the never prosecuted Bush lynching photos?
    Scatt, are you new to the internet, by chance? Here, let me help you:

    1. Click here: http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...al-trolls.html
    2. Find the OP. That means "original post," or if you're counting, post #1.
    3. Click the link in the OP.
    4. Let the images load, then scroll down a bit to find the inflammatory picture.

    Were you able to find it?
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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hate crimes are only prosecuted in clear cases of basically terrorism. No other motive for the crime, and attacker is a member of a hate group. Such things don't take much time to discover.
    Unapproved thought during criminal acts is not terrorism. Hate group means nothing in the US.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Were you able to find it?
    Is this different from the never prosecuted Bush lynching photos?

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Unapproved thought during criminal acts is not terrorism. Hate group means nothing in the US.
    Hate crimes have nothing to do with thought and everything to do with actions. Hate groups are clearly defined and listed in the US.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hate crimes have nothing to do with thought and everything to do with actions.
    Then all crimes are hate crimes.

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    Re: ĎAnonymousí hackers deface Mississippi-based white pride website with anti-fascis

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Is this different from the never prosecuted Bush lynching photos?
    Source, please.
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