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Senator presses NSA to reveal whether it spies on members of Congress

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A US senator has bluntly asked the National Security Agency if it spies on Congress, raising the stakes for the surveillance agency’s legislative fight to preserve its broad surveillance powers.Bernie Sanders, a Vermont independent and socialist, asked army general Keith Alexander, the NSA’s outgoing director, if the NSA “has spied, or is the NSA currently spying, on members of Congress or other American elected officials”.
Sanders, in a letter dated 3 January, defined “spying” as “gathering metadata on calls made from official or personal phones, content from websites visited or emails sent, or collecting any other data from a third party not made available to the general public in the regular course of business”.
The NSA collects the records of every phone call made and received inside the United States on an ongoing, daily basis, a revelation first published in the Guardian in June based on leaks from whistleblower Edward Snowden. Until 2011, the NSA collected the email and internet records of all Americans as well.
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Senator Sanders really putting the NSA in a political minefield! :applaud:applaud
 
The NSA is a topic that has made strange bedfellows.
The Libertarian Right and the Democratic Liberals.
The narrow defeat of the Amash amendment portends things to come.

After Snowden disclosed today the aspects of the computer we're working on,
he is now the greatest traitor we've ever had .
 
NIMBY said:
The NSA is a topic that has made strange bedfellows.
The Libertarian Right and the Democratic Liberals.
The narrow defeat of the Amash amendment portends things to come.

After Snowden disclosed today the aspects of the computer we're working on,
he is now the greatest traitor we've ever had .
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If anyone is a traitor it is those in the NSA spying on Americans,those who authorized it and those who continue to authorize it.Not the guy who revealed that the NSA was wipping their ****ty asshole clean with the 4th amendment.
 
Then we shouldn't have spied on Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis by that reasoning.
And exactly where was this faux outrage last administration with the Patriot act ?
jamesrage said:
If anyone is a traitor it is those in the NSA spying on Americans,those who authorized it and those who continue to authorize it.Not the guy who revealed that the NSA was wipping their ****ty asshole clean with the 4th amendment.
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NIMBY said:
The NSA is a topic that has made strange bedfellows.
The Libertarian Right and the Democratic Liberals.
The narrow defeat of the Amash amendment portends things to come.

After Snowden disclosed today the aspects of the computer we're working on,
he is now the greatest traitor we've ever had .
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How do people think this way? Civil liberties mean little more to you then fuzzy little cotton balls?
 
NIMBY said:
Then we shouldn't have spied on Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis by that reasoning.
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Cuba is another country, not a US state.

And exactly where was this faux outrage last administration with the Patriot act ?
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The Bush patriot act only spied on foreign calls and the Bush administration ceased the warrantless wiretapping program in January 2007.
 
We call it the first amendment.
Montecresto said:
How do people think this way? Civil liberties mean little more to you then fuzzy little cotton balls?
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And Snowden needs to be droned .
 
NIMBY said:
Then we shouldn't have spied on Cuba during the Cuban missile crisis by that reasoning.
And exactly where was this faux outrage last administration with the Patriot act ?
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We're talking about the NSA spying on congress and US citizens!! See how that's different. And there was plenty of real outrage over the Patriot Act. In fact I'm still outraged that its things like it and Bush's warrantless (illegal) wiretapping that lead to these more onerous acts just as Sandra Day O'Conner had predicted.
 
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jamesrage said:
Cuba is another country, not a US state.
The Bush patriot act only spied on foreign calls and the Bush administration ceased the warrantless wiretapping program in January 2007.
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In summary, it is the ODS at it again .
 
Montecresto said:
We're talking about the NSA spying on congress and US citizens!!!!See how that's different.
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I see plenty of phony outrage.
You run with that "To Russia with Snowden" during the Olympics.
And there was plenty of real outrage over the patriot act. In fact I'm still outraged that its things like it and Bush's warrantless (illegal) wiretapping that lead to these more onerous acts just as Sandra Day O'Conner had predicted.
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More history rewrite at odds with the facts .
 
NIMBY said:
We call it the first amendment.


And Snowden needs to be droned .
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Funny how you quote the first amendment then just so happen to be okay when the government ignores the 4th
 
Montecresto said:
We're talking about the NSA spying on congress and US citizens!! See how that's different. And there was plenty of real outrage over the Patriot Act. In fact I'm still outraged that its things like it and Bush's warrantless (illegal) wiretapping that lead to these more onerous acts just as Sandra Day O'Conner had predicted.
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Amazing that some people do not see the difference.
 
But on DP there's nothing but the 2nd and 10th.
Pick your poison.
Montecresto said:
So you fancy the first but want to drone the fourth.
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And take the racist Ron Paul with you .
 
NIMBY said:
I see plenty of phony outrage.
You run with that "To Russia with Snowden" during the Olympics.

More history rewrite at odds with the facts .
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That's no rewrite of history. You have forgotten about the warrantless wiretapping?
 
NIMBY said:
But on DP there's nothing but the 2nd and 10th.
Pick your poison.


And take the racist Ron Paul with you .
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Now what are you talking about?
 
From my post #2, the NSA has made strange bedfellows, the Libertarian Right and Socialist Liberals like Canadian-owned Sanders.
TheDemSocialist said:
Funny how you quote the first amendment then just so happen to be okay when the government ignores the 4th
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And Amash, whose amendment barely failed, is facing a RINO primary.
While Sanders threatens to run 3rd party in the 2016 general.
Both parties have civil wars, the GOP is just more cutthroat .
 
NIMBY said:
From my post #2, the NSA has made strange bedfellows, the Libertarian Right and Socialist Liberals like Canadian-owned Sanders.


And Amash, whose amendment barely failed, is facing a RINO primary.
While Sanders threatens to run 3rd party in the 2016 general.
Both parties have civil wars, the GOP is just more cutthroat .
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So...........you were a supporter of the Amash amendment, or no? As for civil wars in the party, good. It's time to break away from the straight two party monopoly.
 
NIMBY said:
From my post #2, the NSA has made strange bedfellows, the Libertarian Right and Socialist Liberals like Canadian-owned Sanders.


And Amash, whose amendment barely failed, is facing a RINO primary.
While Sanders threatens to run 3rd party in the 2016 general.
Both parties have civil wars, the GOP is just more cutthroat .
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This literally has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
 
Yes-we should be like Israel-with a farthest to the right party that one can imagine getting its way on building settlements and preventing peace or blow up the govt-similar to the GOP House of NO right now-and we should let Israel spy on us with American citizens unabated-good call there also .
Montecresto said:
So...........you were a supporter of the Amash amendment, or no? As for civil wars in the party, good. It's time to break away from the straight two party monopoly.
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The NSA has made strange bedfellows against it--Dem. Liberals and Libertarians like Rand Paul--no thank you--and directly on topic .
TheDemSocialist said:
This literally has nothing to do with the topic at hand.
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