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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    That "belief system" is called "science", and it is evidence based reasoning open for anyone to challenge. Your belief system is based on a single ancient book. You can not even begin to compare the two. The facts are simple: Either the earth actually is billions of years old, or it isn't and your god just placed an undeniable amount of evidence suggesting it is older.

    What possible reason could he have to make everything except his holy book support an old earth?




    It seems like Ken Ham is already sticking his fingers in his ears. The youtube video he posted has comments disabled.

    I stopped reading at "Bill Nye, the popular TV scientist...."

    He hasn't been a relevant public figure for 20 years. His career in television ended long, long ago.

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Idiot is about the nicest word I'd use to describe Ken Ham.
    Yes, I would describe him as a raving idiotic moron.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I stopped reading at "Bill Nye, the popular TV scientist...."

    He hasn't been a relevant public figure for 20 years. His career in television ended long, long ago.
    This actually isn't true at all. Bill Nye has a huge following on the internet due in part to his other TV shows on Discovery, PBS &, numerous books, work with NASA, etc. He could easily be considered this generation's Carl Sagan.
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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    This actually isn't true at all. Bill Nye has a huge following on the internet due in part to his other TV shows on Discovery, PBS &, numerous books, work with NASA, etc. He could easily be considered this generation's Carl Sagan.
    LMAO ok buddy.

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash View Post
    And bigot is about the nicest word I'd use to describe Bill Nye.

    My first question would be, how far do people expect to get in a philosophical discussion that begins with insults? Not far, I hope.

    I'm not one of those people who believes in a strictly literal interpretation of the book of Genesis, but what is so unbelievable about the prospect of a creative intelligence?

    We have evolved and are still evolving, are we not?
    Isn't it possible that life exists (or has existed) on other planets? There are trillions of them after all, many of them just like ours.
    Isn't it reasonable to assume that the life on other planets has also evolved or is still evolving, just like us?
    Isn't it reasonable to assume that life on other planets could have evolved into something that is beyond our understanding?
    If you could create life, would you? We already can create and manipulate life, and we are little more than primates dragging our knuckles through the mud.
    Isn't it fair to assume that another being with the ability to create life would use that ability?

    I know, there are multiple conclusionary leaps involved here, but which part is absolutely unbelievable? Which part is arguably impossible?

    I don't agree with Ham's vision of the universe, nor do I agree with Nye's, but it's hard to find common ground when you are arguing from the two extreme ends of the debate.
    A bigot? Because you discuss the issue with scientific facts rather than religious nonsense?

    The discussion between Nye and this idiot is about the fact that the universe is only 6,000 years old and is created in strict accordance with genesis and that the arc of noah actually had all the diverse animals we now find on the earth on his boat.

    And IMHO intelligent design was just an attempt of religious scientists to put a religious spin on the discovered facts (like the earth being millions of years old). I have no problem that people believe that this is what happened but they should not try and make it into a science, religion and beliefs are not a substitute for facts and verifiable data.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I don't know why he would debate a creationist. That debate was settled over 100 years ago. By debating them you give the appearance of legitimacy to their arguments when there is no legitimacy to them. Would you debate someone that claimed the earth was flat? Would you debate someone that claimed the earth was the center of the universe? How about debating someone that believed that mental illness resulted from demonic possession? How about debating someone that rejected the law of gravity and instead asserted that objects fall to the earth due to God's divine force acting upon them?

    There are two fundamental laws in Biology:

    1. All of the phenomena of biology, the entities and the processes, are ultimately obedient to the laws of physics and chemistry. Not immediately reducible to them, but ultimately consistent and in consilience with them, by a cause and effect explanation.

    2. All biological phenomena, these entities and processes that define life itself, have arisen by evolution through natural selection.

    The fact that some ignorant fundamentalists don't accept that has does not call those laws into question. It merely demonstrates their ignorance. I am all for scientists doing a better job of communicating the science behind evolution to the masses, but debating some nut and thus giving legitimacy to that nut's position is a bad idea in my opinion.

    Right, it was settled 100 years ago.... that's why half of the country doesn't believe in evolution.

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    LMAO ok buddy.
    I didn't think you'd have anything of substance to add once your nonsense was questioned.
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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    he was recently on Dancing with the Stars



    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I stopped reading at "Bill Nye, the popular TV scientist...."

    He hasn't been a relevant public figure for 20 years. His career in television ended long, long ago.

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I didn't think you'd have anything of substance to add once your nonsense was questioned.
    Bill Nye's entertainment career ended in the 90's. That's what I said, that's how it is. He doesn't have a show anymore. He doesn't go on talk shows. People aren't lining up to interview him.

    Maybe that's why he feels the need to come out with whacky controversial garbage like he did: the man is trying to stay relevant.

    It's kind of sad actually.

    He's like the guy that played Bud Bundy on that 90's show Married with Children. Every couple years you hear something about him trying to make a comeback, but it's just never going to happen.

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    re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    he was recently on Dancing with the Stars
    Where washouts go to try to resurrect their careers. You just made my point for me.

    Would be funny to see that pencil neck geek try to dance though, I should have watched that.

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