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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash View Post
    My belief system is a mix of faith and fact. I have been a man of faith my entire life. I have studied or followed just about every religion on Earth, but my "major" has been Christianity. I have never met anyone who thought the Earth was only 6,000 years old. Maybe I travel in different circles than some.

    Your god, science, told me that avocados are full of bad fat that will kill me quickly. Then your god said oops, never mind, I made a mistake.
    Now your god says that we will all die in a fire of global warming. Some of your god's apostles got trapped in a bunch of ice last month that was supposed to be melted by now. Just saying.

    My point is, no one can say with certain factual evidence exactly how old the Earth is. No one was there to observe it. We can estimate, yes, but we can't name a number and call it fact, because facts change. Like avocado "facts". And global warming "facts".
    Our "god", as you put it, may make mistakes, but at least he is there to correct them and explain them to us when he does. I understand your belief gives you comfort, and no one has the right to take that from anyone, but please do not compare your faith with science, as if the two are equal.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    I found this online. I'm not an astrophysicist but this might answer some questions to those requiring to metaphorically see "the nail-prints."

    In the Beginning - Finding Parity Between the Bible and Science in Creation p1/2 - YouTube
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Idiot is about the nicest word I'd use to describe Ken Ham.
    Is it any better than a sheeple who's content with spreading BS about our warming planet ?

    Bill Nye a disengenous fraud.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Is it any better than a sheeple who's content with spreading BS about our warming planet ?

    Bill Nye a disengenous fraud.
    Sheeple?

    sigh
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Sheeple?

    sigh

    Absolutely !!

    Don't tell me you believe this AGW nonsense ?

    LOL !!!

    Yes, Al Gore and Bill Nye will save us from ourselves. ...for price.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Absolutely !!

    Don't tell me you believe this AGW nonsense ?

    LOL !!!

    Yes, Al Gore and Bill Nye will save us from ourselves. ...for price.
    The thing with science is that you can debate it. You can challenge it. And by understanding the facts of it persuade the rest of the world. By avoiding thinking you will never win the AGW debate either for or against anti-CO2 action.

    You must embrace clear thinking based on evidence and not dogma to win a debate.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tim the plumber View Post
    The thing with science is that you can debate it. You can challenge it. And
    by understanding the facts of it persuade the rest of the world.
    By avoiding thinking you will never win the AGW debate either for or against anti-CO2 action.

    You must embrace clear thinking based on evidence and not dogma to win a debate.
    Understanding the facts ... does that include examining motivations of proponents as well as opponents? ... or just what they claim are facts?

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Understanding the facts ... does that include examining motivations of proponents as well as opponents? ... or just what they claim are facts?
    Ideally you start by examining the facts themselves.

    Looking at the motivations of the person bringing the facts first is silly. Either you will follow a particular track because a authoritative person has brought the information or you will dismiss it out of hand and may well be ignoring the truth of a situation.

    You should be skeptical of all the claims. You should be reasonable skeptical of the data and expect any conclusions to stand up to rigorous challenge. If either of these fail then treat such information as speculation at best. It's probably a good idea to look at the motivation of the source at such a point.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Absolutely !!

    Don't tell me you believe this AGW nonsense ?

    LOL !!!

    Yes, Al Gore and Bill Nye will save us from ourselves. ...for price.
    The subject is not global warming, it is creationism. Focus
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164, 712]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    The subject is not global warming, it is creationism. Focus
    Considering his stance on AGW, it doesn't help his credibillity one bit on a variety of issues, including creationism.

    He's just another left wing hack whos marginalized by his ideology.

    Nothing "scientific" about that.

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