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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Believe doesn't require proof, so don't ask for it.
    Which is why he is an idiot, for trying to have his dogmatic BS taught in public schools, and calling it "science"

    I don't believe in evolution, I accept it as fact, based on the evidence.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I think it's worth asking for when he advocates kids should be taught it in school as scientific fact... Something he brought up more than once during the debate.
    That's the trap which let's him get his opponent mad and lose his train of thought. Don't play into it.
    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Which is why he is an idiot, for trying to have his dogmatic BS taught in public schools, and calling it "science"

    I don't believe in evolution, I accept it as fact, based on the evidence.
    You guys are letting that troll work you up.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That's the trap which let's him get his opponent mad and lose his train of thought. Don't play into it.

    You guys are letting that troll work you up.
    No, I stand for intellect, not this garbage that insults actual science.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    No, I stand for intellect, not this garbage that insults actual science.
    You're being baited.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You're being baited.
    Eh, I will always fight ignorance.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    yeah wasn't that a great question!?
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by RogueWarrior View Post
    yeah wasn't that a great question!?
    Yeah, the bible is a book of fables, it is static, it is full of the scientific knowledge of the time (flat earth, moon creates light, etc). The creationists can never ever discover new information that might invalidate their beliefs. What kind of growth or intellect is that? It is pure dishonesty at its very nature. If Odinism had supplanted Christianity, we would have Odinists claiming that their norse god creates day and night!

    Sadly, people are born and raised into this kind of ignorance, they don't wish to ever learn. But things are changing, people are dropping dogma and religion at a rate never before experienced. We all have the entire library of mankind's scientific achievements at our fingertips on the internet, and with that, reason wins out of silly dogma (except for the nutcases that need invisible overlords).
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Eh, I will always fight ignorance.
    ....I'll just leave this right here.....



    Day 1: The first 'light' was the removal of the dense cloud cover Earth had when it formed; 4.4-3.8 x 109 years ago.

    With "darkness was over the surface of the deep", Genesis begins around the the start of the Archean eon with a dense layer of clouds and gases which would have made it dark at the Earth's surface. During the early Archean (about 3.0 Ga) the mantle was much hotter than today, probably around 1600 C. This means the fraction of partially molten material was much larger than today. Gases escaped from the crust, and more gases were released by volcanoes, completing the second atmosphere.

    The "separating light from darkness" is the cooling of the Earth, the formation clouds and rain created by the oceans. By the start of the Archean eon oceans already covered the Earth. The new atmosphere probably contained water vapor, carbon dioxide, nitrogen, and smaller amounts of other gases. As the output of the Sun was only 70% of the current amount, significant amounts of greenhouse gasses in the atmosphere most likely prevented the surface water from freezing. Free oxygen would have been bound by hydrogen or minerals on the surface. Volcanic activity was intense and, without an ozone layer to hinder its entry, ultraviolet radiation flooded the surface.

    Earth Science Lesson 1 Instruction, page 1
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    History of the Earth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Day 2: The formation of a stable water cycle; ~2.7 x 109 years ago

    Day 3: Plant life forms on land; ~1.0 x 109 years ago

    Day 4: The Earth's achieves it's current 'stellar day': the Earth's rotation relative to fixed stars, which has been and is still ever changing. See also Solar Day, Mean Solar-Day, and Sidereal-Day. Even the Moon's distance from the Earth has always been changing. This is the perpetual nature of evolution.

    Day 5: Birds (Feduccia, A. 1995. Explosive evolution in tertiary birds and mammals. Science 267: 637-638, ~70 x 106 years ago), whales (~50 x 106 years ago) and sea mammals ("swarms of living creatures," where "creatures" is the Hebrew word nephesh, referring to soulish animals - those that can form relationships with humans) were created, which would correspond to the end of the Cretaceous period/beginning of the Tertiary.

    Day 6: The "beasts of the earth" (the Hebrew word is chayyah, which is best translated as "wild animal," usually referring to carnivorous mammals [the extinct families Miacidae and Viverravidae, appeared ~50 x 106 years ago or current families Canidae, Felidae, Mustelidae, and Viverridae appeared ~30 x 106 years ago]) the wild and domesticated mammals such as cattle (the Hebrew word is behemah, from which we get the word behemoth, the artiodactyls, large grazing mammals, appeared ~15 x 106 years ago) and rodents (mammals that "creep on the ground") were created.

    Day 7: God kicks His boots off, cracks open a cold one and ti-vo's the latest episode of Braking Bad.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    haven't read many posts on this thread but I'm guessing it's 46 pages of liberals patting themselves on the back on how smart they are. Creationists are slow moving targets boys. don't start signing up for Mensa just yet.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeTrumps View Post
    haven't read many posts on this thread but I'm guessing it's 46 pages of liberals patting themselves on the back on how smart they are. Creationists are slow moving targets boys. don't start signing up for Mensa just yet.
    Has nothing to do with liberals vs conservatives.

    Has to do with intellect and logic vs believing 2000 year old books of fables.
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