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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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    It can't be proven either way and I have no opinion on the topic to have faith in.
    Yes, it can, I have the data.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Obviously you missed the point. Science claims everything can be proven or disproven yet they cannot provide irrefutable proof of the scientific theory of the beginning of the world. Faith does not require proof so Creationists have no need to provide any since their belief is not based on proof.
    You continue (knowingly, now) to misrepresent the nature of the debate. Is isn't whether or not creationism is faith based but whether it qualifies to be taught alongside evolution in a science class.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Obviously you missed the point. Science claims everything can be proven or disproven yet they cannot provide irrefutable proof of the scientific theory of the beginning of the world. Faith does not require proof so Creationists have no need to provide any since their belief is not based on proof.
    The problem here is that you have no comprehension of science.

    Nothing can be proven or disproven by science. Everything is potentially dis-provable, given more evidence.

    But the evidence for evolution is so overwhelming, we can consider it proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    You continue (knowingly, now) to misrepresent the nature of the debate. Is isn't whether or not creationism is faith based but whether it qualifies to be taught alongside evolution in a science class.
    Since neither idea can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt neither one holds any more weight so far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't teach creationism in schools but I also wouldn't treat the big bang theory as fact like so many schools seem to.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Since neither idea can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt neither one holds any more weight so far as I'm concerned. I wouldn't teach creationism in schools but I also wouldn't treat the big bang theory as fact like so many schools seem to.
    Actually, the big bang is a fact. You're perfectly free to point out that we don't know exactly where all that energy/matter came from and what existed before it. But the big bang itself? That happened.

    Which is still not evolution, by the way, and it still doesn't change the fact that as Creationism doesn't operate on science, it doesn't belong in a science class.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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    Why aren't monkeys having human children?
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    I don't want a "comprehension of science"
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    Why aren't monkeys having human children?

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by L0neW0lf View Post
    Why would we give birth to monkeys? monkeys are less evolved so they should be the ones giving birth to humans not the other way round.
    If this is your understanding of evolution, you really really really need to go back to real biology textbook for the proper explanation of evolution.

    What you describe is not what evolutions says is has happened , is happening or is going to happen. Animals do not simply transform from one species in to another in one generation. It takes 1000s of generations for change to be noticeable.

    Some of the most rabid creationist websites like Answers in Genesis and Creation Ministries International say this argument is foolish.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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    Of course not, that is not logical.
    Are you a Muslim?

    I'm just making a general comment here, but Muslims usually seem to be the most anti-intellectual when it comes to science.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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    If species can't give birth to other species then we were all created by God in our current form.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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