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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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    I don't believe in things I cannot prove. I don't understand God and I don't see the function of Organized Religion which has, historically, only led to oppression and conflict.
    I do not believe in the idea of organized religion. I believe in spirituality and a personal connection with the Divine. If you cannot believe in anything you cannot prove then I feel rather sad for you. It must be an exceptionally limiting life.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I do not believe in the idea of organized religion. I believe in spirituality and a personal connection with the Divine. If you cannot believe in anything you cannot prove then I feel rather sad for you. It must be an exceptionally limiting life.
    The only limiting life is that life whereby a rational inquiry into the natural world is shunned and instead replaced by faith to some unknown entity that has the answers.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aekos View Post
    What's the point of God if it merely invites more questions and more mysteries? Because let's face it, historically, the purpose of the (human) invention of God was to try and explain various physical phenomena. We understand most of said phenomena. What's the modern purpose of Organized Religion?
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    Your question shows your lack of belief. We didn't create God. The Gods created us.
    Pro-tip for you Aekos. The Christian god has his historical origins during the Babylonian exile occurring 600-500 BCE. With the exception of Zoroastrianism and Atenism, the idea of a single God was created only about 2,500 years old. The Egyptian pyramids are older than Him.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aekos View Post
    The only limiting life is that life whereby a rational inquiry into the natural world is shunned and instead replaced by faith to some unknown entity that has the answers.
    When one does not believe this life is the end of things but rather the beginning, it makes a big difference.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    When one does not believe this life is the end of things but rather the beginning, it makes a big difference.
    I believe that since we cannot know for sure that there is an afterlife, we should live this life we have, this precious life, to the fullest.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Pro-tip for you Aekos. The Christian god has his historical origins during the Babylonian exile occurring 600-500 BCE. With the exception of Zoroastrianism and Atenism, the idea of a single God was created only about 2,500 years old. The Egyptian pyramids are older than Him.
    I was trying to be kind...

    Most aspects of Christianity were stolen from the prevailing "spiritual movements" that came before. Including most of the miracles of the Bible and such.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Aekos View Post
    I believe that since we cannot know for sure that there is an afterlife, we should live this life we have, this precious life, to the fullest.
    Honestly I don't believe human life has much value, and I'm not a Christian. I believe we are here as a test of the Soul.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    That's why I won't play by science's rules. Science wants to ignore the idea that there might be something out there which it cannot explain.
    If you have another method for collecting, analyzing and testing data at least as consistently and efficiently as the scientific method, I'd love to hear it.


    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    So if science can't prove you saw what you know you saw you won't believe it. That's quite sad so far as I'm concerned.
    I didn't say I don't believe it, my point is that as there's no real world context to put it in talking about it is pointless at best. What am I going to do? Say, "Hey guys, come check out this paranormal thing I saw"? I can't replicate it for anybody, nobody can come over and explain it to me since there's nothing repeatable to observe and test, so again, what's the point? It's my personal experience and it's in that realm it'll stay. Why I'm bothering to go into this is that the scientific method is superior for dealing with certain phenomena because it demands a level of consistency that everybody can participate in, unlike your ghost story or my experience. Can you imagine how the Manhattan Project would have gone if the team had used faith instead?

    Oppenheimer: Hey, Fermi, check it out. I'm pretty sure if I hook up this chunk of plutonium to an alarm clock we'll get a nuclear explosion.
    Fermi: Okay, I tried it. Nothing happened.
    Oppenheimer: Dude, have faith.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate... blah blah blah


    DDDDUUUURRR

    Just because corrupt assholes can make a rhyme out his name the Dumbocrats worship him. Even though he doesn't know jack **** about real science.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Honestly I don't believe human life has much value, and I'm not a Christian. I believe we are here as a test of the Soul.
    Fair enough.

    I am exactly the opposite to you. I am an Existentialist and I believe that there is no meaning to life other than the life we give it ourselves. This life is the only life we have. Existence precedes essence (sartre)

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