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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

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    So you can PROVE BEYOND ANY REASONABLE DOUBT that human beings evolved from other lesser primates? That would be quite something to see.
    Yes, if you studied it you would have to have some kind of mental affliction to disagree. I wouldn't necessarily call them "lesser primates." Real human evolution begins with Hominini.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    Yes, if you studied it you would have to have some kind of mental affliction to disagree. I wouldn't necessarily call them "lesser primates." Real human evolution begins with Hominini.
    I will save you the time now and let you know that I believe the world was created by a Higher Power and nothing will ever c hanger my view on that.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I will save you the time now and let you know that I believe the world was created by a Higher Power and nothing will ever c hanger my view on that.
    Well, you know what Kurt Wise said: "if all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate."

    It's your loss if you want to shut yourself off from all of the wonderful truth that science has to offer.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    Well, you know what Kurt Wise said: "if all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate."

    It's your loss if you want to shut yourself off from all of the wonderful truth that science has to offer.
    I'm not a Christian. I'm an eclectic spiritualist. The Bible has nothing to do with my beliefs. My personal experiences and enlightenment have shaped my views. Science really has little to nothing to offer me.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I'm not a Christian. I'm an eclectic spiritualist. The Bible has nothing to do with my beliefs. My personal experiences and enlightenment have shaped my views. Science really has little to nothing to offer me.
    You are no different than a creationist in your denial of science, though.
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by ethanUNC View Post
    You are no different than a creationist in your denial of science, though.
    The only science I've ever really had an interest in is Ballistics.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Science really has little to nothing to offer me
    Science has nothing to offer you, yet you are seated in a padded chair in a home constructed by engineers, equipped with heat and water. You surf the internet on a computer that is sitting on your desk, and you enjoy Tigger, an animated character on a TV show, and ...
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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Speaking in vague generalities gets you nowhere. What else is there to evolution? Climate? Accounted for. Habitat? Accounted for. Sea levels? Accounted for. Amount of CO2 in the atmosphere? Accounted for. What exactly are are scientists missing that you're not? God?
    Sorry, I was speaking to those of us with at least a basic understanding of evolution. If you believe that evolution is simply natural selection, I invite you to find and read a few general overviews that will explain it to you much better than I have time to do.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Are you saying that accepted scientific laws are fundamentally false. On what grounds?
    Are you saying that the "two fundamental laws of biology" that were posted are accepted scientific laws?

    Do you believe that evolution through natural selection is a scientific law? I had hoped that you learned something from our exchange on the difference between laws and theories.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Are you saying that the "two fundamental laws of biology" that were posted are accepted scientific laws?

    Do you believe that evolution through natural selection is a scientific law? I had hoped that you learned something from our exchange on the difference between laws and theories.
    In common parlance, a theory is a hunch or guess about something (e.g., "I have a theory that my teacher is an alien"). In science, however, a theory is an explanation of a set of observations that has been tested and found to be well-supported by evidence (e.g., "the theory of relativity"). The common [parlance] usage of the word theory is closer in meaning to [a] hypothesis in science: a plausible (or possible) explanation.

    The distinction between a theory and a hypothesis (or even a guess) is an important one, and ignoring it leads to the kind of equivocation in apologetics exemplified by the claim that "evolution is only a theory".
    So don't mix the common parlance form of 'theory' with the scientific form of the word!
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