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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    1)You don't know what evolution is so you're not qualified to say where evolution is or isn't proven.[/quote]

    I know quite well what it is. I also know it's not provable beyond a reasonable doubt.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    2)If the debate were merely between a position of faith and one of science, then you might have a point. However, it's far from that innocuous as those in favor of creationism want it taught as a valid scientific theory alongside evolution in science classes.
    In my mind until evolution or any other scientific theory if the creation of the world can be proven, both should be discussed and neither should be promoted over any other.

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    This is the prize that creationists are striving for, so they really do in fact have to show that creationism has a legitimate place in science, not merely that it's based on faith, and that is why your scenario is a fantasy.
    Honestly, I believe that decision should be left up to the local school board, as should all educational decisions. Then again I will hone - school any child I ever have so things like this aren't an issue.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    The Bible was written by other people


    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Just as MANY people (not YOU obviously) do NO research but are just obnoxious little pricks clinging to the works of others and looking for ways to ridicule others.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Science has never disproved God, and it probably never will... unless you are a faith-based person and base the existence of God on things like; the world has to be flat, the world has to be stationary and not revolve, the Sun the Moon and the stars are moving, dinosaur bones are an atheist conspirarcy, evolution is a lie, etc.

    Science is not your enemy. Its sad to see people uncomfortable with their children learning science. If you take a science class and then start to question God, then sit down and work that out with yourself. Perhaps you were just basing the existence of God on a faulty assumption and misunderstanding you had about the world or universe. Just because science says you're wrong about the world being flat, it doesn't mean there's no God.

    Science isn't out to to prove God doesn't exist, so don't get angry about science and scientific theory. Don't expect to hear God mentioned in theories. Its not a conspiracy.
    its cute that you want to continue to pretend I somehow view science as an 'enemy'.

    Now...perhaps you will entertain with which theory created by someone other than yourself you 'believe'. You know...that whole settled science thing that explains the origins of the cosmos.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I know quite well what it is. I also know it's not provable beyond a reasonable doubt.
    Then please describe evolution in your own words.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Yeah... There is a ton of other stuff involved with evolution beyond natural selection: adaptation, survival of the fittest, extinction, diseases & immunities, biological instinct, climate and environmental factors, etc.



    What could she have possibly been talking about... I mean something other than intelligent design related.


    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you have a point you should expound on it. Of course there is more to evolution than natural selection. There is gene flow, random mutations as DNA is replicated and so on. Or do you mean some supernatural force at work? If so, what positive empirical evidence can you cite for that one?

    Natural selection simply means that changes in an organism are accumilated gradually as different traits result in different success rates for an organism in its environment. If it's not natural selection then its something supernatural and that is not science.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    I do too. I listen to that podcast all the time. Are you donating to make Penn evil?


    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Really? I heard him a few weeks back on Penn Gillette's podcast, he spoke with Neil Degrasse Tyson, Dawkins and Lawrence Krauss at an event I was at a few months ago, he frequently does interviews...and was on Dancing with the Stars this season/

    Sounds like he has a pretty full plate lately.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The Bible was written by other people
    Aaaaaaand...your point is? I accept people chose to believe things and the bible is absolutely a faith based endeavor. I also believe in science and scientific exploration. The point is not that it is inappropriate to accept things on faith but rather it is foolsih to ridicule others when you do the same thing. And...BTW...what is YOUR faith based belief system on the origins of the cosmos? Are you a Banger? As you have no problem ridiculing others for their faith, surely you transcend faith and have a knowledge that explains the foundation of the universe....right?

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    My nieces made their own birthday cards for Bill Nye with construction paper and pop out animal designs. Their science teacher then mailed the.cards. He seems like a nice guy, so I think he would appreciate little kids thinking he's cool and like science.




    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Fist off, Bill Nye is f'n awesome. Secondly, he's been doing continual work in science education and science research since his show. He is completely relevant in the world of popular science.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Then please describe evolution in your own words.
    Evolution is a scientific theory which states that organisms will physically change and adapt to better survive in their environment over time. This theory is intended to show why very similar animals in different areas of the world may have widely varied diets, physical traits, and may act differently.

    Evolution is also part of a larger theory which suggests that human beings have not always been human but rather have evolved from a common ancestor with apes. This theory denies any connection to a divine power or any sort of intelligent design in nature.

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    Re: Bill Nye the Science Guy to debate Creation museum founder Ken Ham[W:164]

    No, I'm several weeks backlogged.

    I might donate if he gives Gilbert Gottfried a part...
    "Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it." George Santayana

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