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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And the media went along with the Bush administration's narrative, which I'd call pretty "compliant." The Democrats wised up on that war after a couple of years when it was obvious that the narrative wasn't true.
    That was political though as well. It didn't take that long to understand the narrative wasn't true. Of course partisan supporters weren't going against their president (which is IMO the biggest threat to our republic) but plenty of us knew at the time and were vocal, in our meager ways. Both legislators and journalists have said subsequently that, at the time, opposition was career suicide!! That's too bad, that that is what it has to come down to. In my wee corner of the world it was painful, wasn't threatening to my career but it was painful, and I do not exaggerate.

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And the media went along with the Bush administration's narrative, which I'd call pretty "compliant." The Democrats wised up on that war after a couple of years when it was obvious that the narrative wasn't true.
    What are you saying? In the time it began everyone was on the same side. Just follow the vote! And what 'narrative" are you talking about?

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    What are you saying? In the time it began everyone was on the same side. Just follow the vote! And what 'narrative" are you talking about?
    That Saddam was a threat.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That Saddam was a threat.
    And you believe A) Saddam was not a threat and B) George Bush was the only one who claimed he was a threat?

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by SBu View Post
    There's so much misinformation out there who really knows. It could be that it was planned for 9-11 as a terrorist attack and the video was used for popular support, it could be that it was all about the video, it could be that the video really wasn't a motivating factor for an organized attack.

    The only thing I know is we seem to always be learning things piecemeal and it's ridiculous. Issa hasn't been doing a very good job investigating this and disseminating real information. The WH hasn't been doing a good job being totally open. And why is the NYT just now saying that it had a contracted reporter on the ground that evening a year and 4 months after the fact.
    I totally agree about the misinformation and the disinformation also. Issa may be trying to play this thing out as long as he can or until the elections if he has really found anything at all. As for the White House and their actions, it does smell of a cover up. Whether it is about something important or just some tid bit that doesn't mean anything that the WH thinks will embarrass them, I don't know.

    I suppose the bottom line for me is that I don't know if there is any there, there. After all this time I can't shake that smell that something is being covered up, but at the same time I feel there is a witch hunt going one here. So I elect to sit back and watch and listen before I start taking sides one way or the other. I am not satisfied with either side at this point. I just hope it doesn't take 20 years for the truth to come out.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I totally agree about the misinformation and the disinformation also. Issa may be trying to play this thing out as long as he can or until the elections if he has really found anything at all. As for the White House and their actions, it does smell of a cover up. Whether it is about something important or just some tid bit that doesn't mean anything that the WH thinks will embarrass them, I don't know.

    I suppose the bottom line for me is that I don't know if there is any there, there. After all this time I can't shake that smell that something is being covered up, but at the same time I feel there is a witch hunt going one here. So I elect to sit back and watch and listen before I start taking sides one way or the other. I am not satisfied with either side at this point. I just hope it doesn't take 20 years for the truth to come out.
    The problem, and it may have begun with Nixon, is that politicians can easily confuse their own self interest and power with National Security. That's Benghazi.

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    And you believe A) Saddam was not a threat and B) George Bush was the only one who claimed he was a threat?
    a. No, I do not believe Saddam was a threat to the U.S.

    b. I never said Bush was the only one who claimed he was.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    a. No, I do not believe Saddam was a threat to the U.S.

    b. I never said Bush was the only one who claimed he was.
    How does any of that relate to "What are you saying? In the time it began everyone was on the same side. Just follow the vote! And what 'narrative" are you talking about?"

    Why did you bother responding when you have nothing to add?

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    How does any of that relate to "What are you saying? In the time it began everyone was on the same side. Just follow the vote! And what 'narrative" are you talking about?"

    Why did you bother responding when you have nothing to add?
    The narrative was that Saddam was a threat. You asked the question, I answered it. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: New york times had reporter 'talking to the attackers' during benghazi massacre

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The narrative was that Saddam was a threat. You asked the question, I answered it. If you don't like the answer, don't ask the question.
    You added "a threat to the US". That was never mentioned, nor was the question asked, Please don't get involved unless you can add something of interest to the conversation.

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