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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    I can see the aging population impacting social security payees but this increase seems to be more than just that. I am not saying what it is because I do not know. The little personal experience I see with it is thru the VA. There I see able bodied Vets getting disability in large sums for "injuries" I can't see but I guess must exist. One complainer said he only gets $4k a month "how am I suppose to live" and I kind a wanted to choke him out.


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    Baby boomers aging into their 50s and early 60s is the problem. You got this huge generation of people that ushered in the obesity epidemic in America as well as just the general decline in fitness in this country that are now getting old enough for all their poor health choices to come how to roost. I am not sure what we do about that though. We can more aggressively go after fraud, but that is probably only going to cut away at the margins of the problem.

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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Personally, I'd like to see harsh penalties, not only for people committing fraud, but the doctors, lawyers and such who knowingly help people defraud the system.
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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Over the past ten years, almost 3 million men and women have served in Iraq and Afghanistan thanks to both Bush, who started the wars, and Obama, who promised to get us out immediately, but didn't. Of those who didn't come home in body bags, hundreds of thousands of them came home with traumatic, permanent injuries. So how can anyone be surprised that the number of people on disability has continued to rise? Add to that an aging population, and yes, you're gonna have a rise in people who are unable to work and support themselves.

    Nobody in their right mind... and nobody in this thread... has ever supported disability fraud. That's nothing more than a bunch of disingenuous huffing and puffing to cover up the real motive behind the hatred of disability payments, or any kind of payment to individuals who are unable to support themselves... which is that a substantial percentage of America's population thinks that once a person can no longer contribute to society, they should be placed on the nearest curb for trash pickup and immediate disposal.

    Oddly enough, the people who feel that way are almost always well off financially and healthy as horses. Lucky them. If I was in charge of the world, folks, karma would be a bitch... a bitch with an empty checkbook and a hearty ho-ho-ho when they find themselves sitting on that curb, waiting for pickup.

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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    It's 3% of the population, for gawd's sake. You think this is the biggest fish to fry?
    SSDI is now slated to go broke in 2016. It's not the biggest fish to fry (the biggest fish is Medicare), but it is definitely the Alligator Closest to the Boat.

    Heck, I can bet the DoD flushes more taxpayer money in one freakin' week.
    SSDI costs $144 Billion in 2013.

    DOD cost $525 Billion in 2013.

    Furthermore, DOD's costs are going down while SSDI's are rapidly climbing.

    And BTW, as the population increases, so does the number of people on disability. The numbers have been steadily increasing for the last 40 years.
    That is incorrect. The numbers on SSDI increase in bursts, which roughly correlate with economic downturns. In short, SSDI is used as a stand-in for permanent welfare in the post-welfare-reform era (which limited TANF by making it TANF), and so people use it as an alternative to work.

    Like I wrote, so freakin' what.
    It's going to cause an earlier entitlement collapse. Once upon a time, people on the left cared about that sort of thing.

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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Over the past ten years, almost 3 million men and women have served in Iraq and Afghanistan thanks to both Bush, who started the wars, and Obama, who promised to get us out immediately, but didn't. Of those who didn't come home in body bags, hundreds of thousands of them came home with traumatic, permanent injuries. So how can anyone be surprised that the number of people on disability has continued to rise?
    Because those people are on VA Disability instead?

    Nobody in their right mind... and nobody in this thread... has ever supported disability fraud. That's nothing more than a bunch of disingenuous huffing and puffing to cover up the real motive behind the hatred of disability payments, or any kind of payment to individuals who are unable to support themselves.
    What utter and complete balderdash and spiteful bigotry. People are capable of disagreeing with you without being immoral or stupid, Di - and you only insult yourself when you forget that, not them.

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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    the problem is that SS was meant for retirement. one of the biggest reasons that it is in trouble is that they have allowed more and more people to pull out of the fund that
    aren't retired. disability is one of those things. it has caused more people to pull out of the fund than what should be.

    that is one of the biggest reasons that SS is going bankrupt. there are only 1.5-2 people paying in for every one person taking out.

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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Obama did get the liar of the year award. Did he not? And you are a Obama fan, are you not?
    Nope, but then I'm not a fan of your lies either that you cannot admit to. Oh I forget, you call them "Bad assumptions". You're no better than Obama.

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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Over the past ten years, almost 3 million men and women have served in Iraq and Afghanistan thanks to both Bush, who started the wars, and Obama, who promised to get us out immediately, but didn't. Of those who didn't come home in body bags, hundreds of thousands of them came home with traumatic, permanent injuries. So how can anyone be surprised that the number of people on disability has continued to rise? Add to that an aging population, and yes, you're gonna have a rise in people who are unable to work and support themselves.

    Nobody in their right mind... and nobody in this thread... has ever supported disability fraud. That's nothing more than a bunch of disingenuous huffing and puffing to cover up the real motive behind the hatred of disability payments, or any kind of payment to individuals who are unable to support themselves... which is that a substantial percentage of America's population thinks that once a person can no longer contribute to society, they should be placed on the nearest curb for trash pickup and immediate disposal.

    Oddly enough, the people who feel that way are almost always well off financially and healthy as horses. Lucky them. If I was in charge of the world, folks, karma would be a bitch... a bitch with an empty checkbook and a hearty ho-ho-ho when they find themselves sitting on that curb, waiting for pickup.
    Hate that you're making me defend Obama here Di but to be fair he only promised to get us out of the Iraq war. Which did happen on his watch...even though the withdrawal plan came from Bush. He did state that he would stay in Afghanistan.
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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Nope, but then I'm not a fan of your lies either that you cannot admit to. Oh I forget, you call them "Bad assumptions". You're no better than Obama.
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    Re: 10,988,269: 2013 Closes With Record Number on Disability Getting Highest-Ever Mon

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Link please.




    Seriously, Rocketman? You wanna get mad and go after the change under the couch cushions, rather than the billion upon billions wasted by your DoD?




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    Reuters Investigates - UNACCOUNTABLE: The Pentagon's bad bookkeeping

    So you want the eliminate the largest employer in the world? just how long do you thing the middle class can carry everyone sitting at home?

    The Department is also the largest employer in the world,[5] with more than 2.13 million active duty soldiers, sailors, marines, airmen, and civilian workers, and over 1.1 million National Guardsmen and members of the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Reserves. The grand total is just over 3.2 million servicemen, servicewomen, and civilians.

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