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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    It appears some people think China's military has made giant leaps for mankind, while the US military has been sitting on its hands doing nothing much since WWII.
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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    What's this "2020" nonsense? China could whip the U.S. now, anytime, anywhere.

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by Mosby View Post
    What's this "2020" nonsense? China could whip the U.S. now, anytime, anywhere.
    Strange how military analysts don't share that particular point of view. Makes you wonder doesn't it?

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    It appears some people think China's military has made giant leaps for mankind, while the US military has been sitting on its hands doing nothing much since WWII.
    I missed those posts. Can you point them out?

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Strange how military analysts don't share that particular point of view. Makes you wonder doesn't it?
    What???

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What???
    Experts on the subject of military capability believe the US to still be the world's preeminent force, not China.

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Experts on the subject of military capability believe the US to still be the world's preeminent force, not China.
    Oh, we'll yeah, I haven't seen that disputed. But what is relevant to this op is that China is narrowing that cushion at an alarming rate, causing serious concerns to the Pentagon, and other experts and analysts, as posted all over this and other threads here discussing this topic. While the US military has seen cuts, China has had double digit growth annually for two decades and will soon approach 200 billion dollars. The Pentagon and think tanks, analysts and other experts consider this a threat and do not dismiss it out of hand as you have seen so many armchair generals here do so.

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Does everyone really still think that the f22 and JSF program are our top tier weapons?

    You all realize we released the F117 and B2 in '91, and had been using the platform since the late 70s....

    We are in actuality 20 years ahead of everything you see, at the VERY least. Not a single one of us really knows what we have, but use your imagination. We are a nightmare on a good day, to the likes of which the world has never, nor will ever see. We are super secretive. No question about it. The next generation of weapons, clearly the world is not ready to see.

    What we see now is old news. China is struggling to keep up with the f35, meanwhile we are R&Ding tech that is 50 years ahead of that as we speak.

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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I missed those posts. Can you point them out?
    Don't lie about the impression you've been trying to give in this thread. You must be in love with China.
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    Re: China could defeat US in East Pacific conflict by 2020: Russian analyst

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Don't lie about the impression you've been trying to give in this thread. You must be in love with China.
    I must be in love with China because I point out that the Pentagon has "serious concerns" about their rapidly developing military? So then the Pentagon must be completely infatuated with China. Say American, sense YOU have such a grip on the realities and capabilities of the Chinese military (even the Pentagon concedes that Chinas "White Paper" is not 100% forth coming) why don't you dissect and refute the Pentagons report to Congress?

    And then find those posts in which we will see "some people" expressing that China's military has made "giant leaps for mankind"

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