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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You mean to say the official reason for going into A-Stan was bull****?
    No. I can hardly believe anyone could really have read that into the statement.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The US must make clear that that is always an option, where the local government and population act in emnity against the US or harbor enemies of the US planing violence against Americans or Americans' property.
    The US and the West has done a fine job supporting Kenyan, Ethiopian and eventually African East/Union troops to bring some semblance of human rights and basic education to Somalia. These countries did so of their own interest and Somalia is benefiting.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    "Afghanistan Gains." If ever there were an oxymoron, that is it.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The US and the West has done a fine job supporting Kenyan, Ethiopian and eventually African East/Union troops to bring some semblance of human rights and basic education to Somalia.
    Which is the way to go in future. Unless the threat is to Americans help but let the neighbors and international organizations do it. No more free riding US policing.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    No more free riding US policing.
    Except Iran to also end Assad, Hez and Hamas.

    And we still have to deal with Pakistan.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The US must make clear that that is always an option, where the local government and population act in emnity against the US or harbor enemies of the US planing violence against Americans or Americans' property.
    sure. we do it in Yemen. although we drone the occasional wedding party/child..well you know how that goes.

    Nothing inherently wrong with going after TRUE theats, the problem in Afg is "nationbuilding" (counter-insurgency).

    The problem in Paki is the drones are aggrevating the populace to the point they are blocking US supply lines thru Kyber.

    The problem in Yemen is radicalizing the local populace, to the point they give harbor to AQ.

    The problem is mindless categorizing of "militants"/extremists"/AQ - without any discrimination.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    President Obama, bring them home now.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    The US must make clear that that is always an option, where the local government and population act in emnity against the US or harbor enemies of the US planing violence against Americans or Americans' property.
    I am confused. Are you talking about Afghanistan or Pakistan or Saudi Arabia?










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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by joG View Post
    No. I can hardly believe anyone could really have read that into the statement.
    You said that the US gave Afghan's the chance to improve their lives, when in fact we were told that al Qaida in A-Stan was responsible for 9/11 and we needed to go take them out.

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    Re: Afghanistan gains will be lost quickly after drawdown, U.S. intelligence (WAPO)

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    sure. we do it in Yemen. although we drone the occasional wedding party/child..well you know how that goes.

    Nothing inherently wrong with going after TRUE theats, the problem in Afg is "nationbuilding" (counter-insurgency).

    The problem in Paki is the drones are aggrevating the populace to the point they are blocking US supply lines thru Kyber.

    The problem in Yemen is radicalizing the local populace, to the point they give harbor to AQ.

    The problem is mindless categorizing of "militants"/extremists"/AQ - without any discrimination.

    INO words..."shoot first, ask questions later"
    As I said elsewhere, the US has not been clear enough on how it will react to threats and disturbances. One of the main points in reacting is to make people understand that you will do, what you say you will do. You lose that stabilizer, if you haven't told the people, what you will do.

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