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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Never said it would, just that under Pope Francis it wont push to make them illegal
    Gay marriage isn't "illegal", anyway.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Gay marriage isn't "illegal", anyway.
    If it is not legal, then by definition it is illegal.

    it is legal in some countries and a few states
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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    I believe it is in the tone and expectation of what comes next.

    The Pope I expect is not going to be pushing against gay marriage, or push to make laws making homosexuality illegal, as many evangelical ministers due (Uganda for instance). Graham is I expect going to push to prevent homosexual marriage, and would if the public mood allowed push to make it illegal again (which by law it is in some states I believe, the act not just being)
    Before becoming Pope, Cardinal Bergoglio led the opposition to homosexual marriage in Argentina. His exact quote: "Let's not be naive: this isn't a simple political fight, it's an attempt to destroy God's plan. This is no mere legislative bill. It is a move by the father of lies to confuse and deceive the children of God.”

    He also opposes adoption of children by homosexuals and just encouraged Bishop Scicluna of Malta to condemn it in his Christmas sermon. Malta is currently debating a civil unions bill that would allow it.

    Context is everything. When the Pope made his remarks about not judging homosexuals he was answering a question regarding an alleged gay lobby in the Vatican whose attempts at blackmail had led Pope Benedict to retire as he thought a younger man was needed to counter their influence.
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    On the 'gay lobby' and homosexuality

    The pope addressed the issue of an alleged "gay lobby" within the church. Hints that the Holy See contained a network of gay clergy surfaced last year in reports about a series of embarrassing leaks to Italian journalists.

    The "Vatileaks" scandal factored in Benedict's shocking decision to resign this year, according to some church experts, as it impressed upon the 86-year-old pontiff that the modern papacy requires a vigorous and watchful presence.

    "There's a lot of talk about the gay lobby, but I've never seen it on the Vatican ID card!" Francis said.

    "When I meet a gay person, I have to distinguish between their being gay and being part of a lobby. If they accept the Lord and have goodwill, who am I to judge them? They shouldn't be marginalized. The tendency (to homosexuality) is not the problem ... they're our brothers."

    The problem, he said was, lobbies that work against the interest of the church.

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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A preacher says something the Libbos don't like and he's a "hate filled loser".

    A preacher says something the Libbos like and he's wonderful.
    Conservatives are so much more classy. I never heard any of them call the Pope a Communist for saying something they don't like.


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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    I have long expected Franklin Graham to run for President, or make a run at the nomination at least.
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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    I have long expected Franklin Graham to run for President, or make a run at the nomination at least.
    I don't think so. I just don't see the nastiness in him.


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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Conservatives are so much more classy. I never heard any of them call the Pope a Communist for saying something they don't like.
    I don't think anyone called the Pope a Communist.
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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't think anyone called the Pope a Communist.
    Rush Limbaugh Calls Pope a 'Marxist' For Critique Of Inequality | Crooks and Liars

    Technically, he called him a "Marxist," but he surely did say that.


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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Rush Limbaugh Calls Pope a 'Marxist' For Critique Of Inequality | Crooks and Liars

    Technically, he called him a "Marxist," but he surely did say that.
    Thank you for admitting that no one said, "the Pope is a Communist".
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    Re: Billy Graham's Kid: Pope 'Not the Judge' of Homosexuality

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Thank you for admitting that no one said, "the Pope is a Communist".
    So we're going to split hairs on words? No one said the word "communist" so it didn't happen?


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