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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Isn't this another Bonfire of the Vanities?

    I'm by no means excusing this crime - he's guilty as sin by his own recording. This isn't about the white man, but the omission of the black defendants who are NOT charged with a hate crime. Each case must be taken individually and obviously a hate crime is not extended in all situations.
    By his own words, this was a fishing expedition to see if it would get any notoriety...it did and his suspicions were correct.

    Holder & Co. jumped on it like flies to a **** wagon.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    I am not aware of any that are referenced like "hate crimes."

    I specifically responded to it.
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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    oppose using intent
    Intent is different than knowing.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    i would like to know where the federal government believes they have any authority, in this matter.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Intent is different than knowing.
    Now you're just posting mindless blather - a sure sign you've got not argument

    Do you oppose the law distinguishing between murder and manslaughter?
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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    You bring up a good point. And While I think there is a clear disparity in how the public and state react to crimes involving individual;s of differing racial backgrounds, have any of the other "knock-out attacks" involved such clear evidence of racial motivation?
    I'm not familiar enough with the other cases, but given the last few years and the growing trend and occurances I would suspect at least one other case would garner race as a motivating factor where the victim was white and the accused was black. However I did find articles and in one CBS article citing Brooklyn Heights NY, the victims were identified as all being jewish.

    "Knockout" game targeting victims in several cities, report says - CBS News

    Other articles cite terms called "polar bear hunting" - how valid that is, I'm not sure.
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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by WCH View Post
    By his own words, this was a fishing expedition to see if it would get any notoriety...it did and his suspicions were correct.

    Holder & Co. jumped on it like flies to a **** wagon.
    I believe a whistle blower a year or two ago came out and said Holders DoJ would not prosecute hate crimes where blacks were accused, only when whites were accused. This seems to lend credibility to that whistle blower's story.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    I believe a whistle blower a year or two ago came out and said Holders DoJ would not prosecute hate crimes where blacks were accused, only when whites were accused. This seems to lend credibility to that whistle blower's story.
    Do you have the story that cites the whistleblower?
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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Do you oppose the law distinguishing between murder and manslaughter?
    Not accepting your premise simply means I do not accept your premise.

    Intent is not the same as not knowing.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    The Obama administration filed a federal hate-crimes charge Thursday against a man whom authorities accused of using the “knockout game” to target a black man, videotaping it, and then bragging about the assault to strangers.

    The charge marks the first time the administration has taken action on a “knockout” case after the game became an Internet and media phenomenon. It chose a case in which the person accused is white, even though most other cases reported in the news have involved black assailants.


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    In all fairness it only took them so long to care about the knockout game because it took a while for the first white kid do it to a non-white person.
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