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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Christianity, statism, there is no material difference in the faith needed to support either.

    And again, self-labeling yourself is irrelevant to actual left-right labeling.
    In other words, "you're not what you say you are, you're what I say you are."

    I don't think you could be more wrong, either about that or about "tilting" the compass. You're just wrong.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    In other words, "you're not what you say you are, you're what I say you are."

    I don't think you could be more wrong, either about that or about "tilting" the compass. You're just wrong.
    No, you seem to think so.

    Irrelevant of me or you, is how actual labeling works. You can call yourself anything you want, it just has no relevance to what you actually are. As Carlin said, your name can be spelled s-m-i-t-h, and you can pronounce it Janovski if you want to.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Christianity, statism, there is no material difference in the faith needed to support either.
    Except the constitution separates religion from state. Let's put it this way, when the Chritianists back off their unconstitutional demands or simply let the Satanists lecture in the schools along side the Jesus freaks, I'll buy that they are not infringing on the we'll have no establishment clause. Until then, I'll consider their demands to hang the Ten Commandments on the courthouse walls as a violation of the constitution.

    And again, self-labeling yourself is irrelevant to actual left-right labeling.
    gobley-guk...wut?

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    No, you seem to think so.

    Irrelevant of me or you, is how actual labeling works. You can call yourself anything you want, it just has no relevance to what you actually are. As Carlin said, your name can be spelled s-m-i-t-h, and you can pronounce it Janovski if you want to.
    What-the-****-ever.
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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    gobley-guk...wut?
    Like I said, I took his meaning to be: "You're not what you say you are, you're what I say you are."
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Except the constitution separates religion from state. Let's put it this way, when the Chritianists back off their unconstitutional demands or simply let the Satanists lecture in the schools along side the Jesus freaks, I'll buy that they are not infringing on the we'll have no establishment clause. Until then, I'll consider their demands to hang the Ten Commandments on the courthouse walls as a violation of the constitution.

    gobley-guk...wut?
    Faith in the state is not materially different from faith in god.

    As Carlin said, your name can be spelled s-m-i-t-h, and you can pronounce it Janovski if you want to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Like I said, I took his meaning to be: "You're not what you say you are, you're what I say you are."
    You took it wrong.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Faith in the state is not materially different from faith in god.
    Except the state is real while god is make believe.

    As Carlin said, your name can be spelled s-m-i-t-h, and you can pronounce it Janovski if you want to.
    And freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose...

    wtf is your point? Or do you not have one?

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Except the state is real while god is make believe.

    And freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose...

    wtf is your point? Or do you not have one?
    Sure bud, the state is all powerful and all knowing (to you).

    It is the most to lose.

    You can call yourself whatever you want, but it has no relevance to facts or truth.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by scatt View Post
    Sure bud, the state is all powerful and all knowing (to you).
    Uh. No. Read what I wrote again. I said one is real, the other is make believe.

    It is the most to lose.

    You can call yourself whatever you want, but it has no relevance to facts or truth.
    Sure it does. I get into disagreements with people on the Left often enough to know that I am not on the Left. However, I noticed that those on the Right are much more...dedicated to their delusions than any Lefty I ever met or debated against. Left leaning people tend to listen to counterpoints and read facts presented to them. Well, except the feminists. They seem to be in their own world. They are like Righties in that regard.

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    Re: Feds charge white man with hate crime in first ‘knockout’ prosecution

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Uh. No. Read what I wrote again. I said one is real, the other is make believe.

    Sure it does. I get into disagreements with people on the Left often enough to know that I am not on the Left. However, I noticed that those on the Right are much more...dedicated to their delusions than any Lefty I ever met or debated against. Left leaning people tend to listen to counterpoints and read facts presented to them. Well, except the feminists. They seem to be in their own world. They are like Righties in that regard.
    So there are problems that state regulation cannot fix?

    But "listening" to others has nothing to do with actual left-right placement.

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