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Phil Robertson returns to A&E

Rocketman said:
Only because you disagreed with what he said,
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Wrong again. It's not a free speech issue because a private employer is under no Constitutional mandate to continue said employment if you make comments that reflect poorly on the company.

Rocketman said:
regardless he is reinstated which is what had to happen
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Why did it "have to happen"? Curious as to your rationale for that statement.
 
Rocketman said:
its not now, it was, but A&E realized their error
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You have your right to your own opinion, no matter how ****ing stupid it is, and to speak that opinion in public.

You don't have the right to a job, and if you publicly embarrass your employer, they are well within their rights to fire you.
 
disneydude said:
When is Phil Robertson going to speak out about the multi-fiber clothing that the Lord also finds to be an abomination?
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That's a ceremonial law, not a moral law and thus not observed by Christians.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
You have your right to your own opinion, no matter how ****ing stupid it is, and to speak that opinion in public.

You don't have the right to a job, and if you publicly embarrass your employer, they are well within their rights to fire you.
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Good thing he wasn't talking about his employer. he was giving a personal statement based on a personal question. in a personal interview. it had nothing to do with A&E.

It was moral law in Leviticus.
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Christ fulfilled the law so the old law no longer applies.
 
ecofarm said:
You don't seem to understand which laws Christians observe nor why.
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Oh I understand quite well. People pick and choose all the time which laws they want to obey and those they don't. History is full of cafeteria selection....Religion is full of instances where people decide yesterday's "abomination" is ok today...but others are not because they don't want them to be quite yet. Its pretty simple.
 
Zyphlin said:
Honestly, I don't know how much of this is people loving to flaunt half truths and how much of it was just poor info. When I saw this last night from HuffPo they didn't indicate at the time it was pre-taped shows. I saw a number of friends on facebook pointing out that error in the HuffPo article as well. I imagine, as is often the case with the media bubble of blogs, that different sites started reading what one site said and just were reposting the same basic story...creating a situation early on where it seemed he was actually unsuspended. Note again, I first read it at Huffington Post...hardly a "right leaning" source...and they made no mention of it being pretaped episodes at the time.
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All I know is that captain America directed us to gopthedailydose.com a conservative website that touted that "A&E broke under the pressure and reinstated Phil Robertson back on their hit show, Duck Dynasty." I got the news that although he will still air in the shows already taped there are no plans to tape him in any new shows and he remains suspended, from Huffington Post.
Gopdailydose only gave half the story ... ON PURPOSE.
 
Rocketman said:
excellent,
free speech once again prevails
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I am a big supporter of free speech.

And of equal rights for all Americans.

In Utah right now hundreds of gay couples are getting married.

Read more Here:BBC News - Utah judge denies request to halt same-sex marriages

I wonder what Phil Robertson thinks about that?

Maybe we'll hear soon.




"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll.
 
Mason66 said:
Why are you talking in the future tense?

If you haven't watched the show or know what it is about why are you posting about it?
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A lot of people who haven't been to Heaven or Hell talk about those places.

Why do they do that?
 
Mason66 said:
Why are you talking in the future tense?

If you haven't watched the show or know what it is about why are you posting about it?
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Political hackery.
 
shrubnose said:
I am a big supporter of free speech.

And of equal rights for all Americans.

In Utah right now hundreds of gay couples are getting married.

Read more Here:BBC News - Utah judge denies request to halt same-sex marriages

I wonder what Phil Robertson thinks about that?

Maybe we'll hear soon.




"Tolerance is giving to every other human being every right that you claim for yourself." ~ Robert Green Ingersoll.
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What Phil says about it must be very important to you.
 
Buck Ewer said:
He is not "reinstated"
He remains on suspension.
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And Homosexuality is still a sin and perversion in Christianity, Judaism and Islam.

Funny is it not, that for thousands of years, every so often some bearded prophet or holy man has to remind us of this?
 
Again A&E's decision as a private company.

I think it's stupid when people organize boycotts and crap like that (unless it's against countries or companies with labour/human rights abuses) so in the end whether A&E keeps him or kicks him, makes no difference in my life.

He's still a hateful little bastard who should show some humility mind you, but meh. Whatevs.
 
Wrong. Instead he is on previously taped episodes
 
Rocketman said:
Only because you disagreed with what he said, regardless he is reinstated which is what had to happen
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So you should be able to call your boss and asshole and not be fired right? I mean you wouldn't want to be against free speech.
 
disneydude said:
Oh I understand quite well. People pick and choose all the time which laws they want to obey and those they don't. History is full of cafeteria selection....Religion is full of instances where people decide yesterday's "abomination" is ok today...but others are not because they don't want them to be quite yet. Its pretty simple.
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Just remember those beliefs of others you find to be an "abomination" there are others that feel the same way about yours. If you don't like what someone else believes, don't listen to it, don't read it, just turn the channel and stop supporting bullying and forcing others through false claims of defamation that are redefining our discrimination laws and forcing others to comply with what you/they think is acceptable. Holding a belief or an opposing view is not defamation. Tell me would you be just as outraged if Rachael Maddow who has a record of anti-Christian rants joining up with a few other lesbians to share their pro-gay views in a series while mocking the traditional views of Christians/Jewish/Muslims/Hindus on marriage? Would you consider that discrimination/defamation? I think not. One thing about most Progressives is they have one standard they expect others to live up to and another they hold themselves to.
 
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vesper said:
Just remember those beliefs of others you find to be an "abomination" there are others that feel the same way about yours. If you don't like what someone else believes, don't listen to it, don't read it, just turn the channel and stop supporting bullying and forcing others through false claims of defamation that are redefining our discrimination laws and forcing others to comply with what you/they think is acceptable. Holding a belief or an opposing view is not defamation. Tell me would you be just as outraged if Rachael Maddow who has a record of anti-Christian rants joining up with a few other lesbians to share their pro-gay views in a series while mocking the traditional views of Christians/Jewish/Muslims/Hindus on marriage? Would you consider that discrimination/defamation? I think not. One thing about most Progressives is they have one standard they expect others to live up to and another they hold themselves to.
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I agree that people have every right to hold opposing views and it does not necessarily rise to the level of defamation. That said....people also have a right to counter those opposing views. What I hear most often is people speaking out and then crying when they have to face the consequences of their speech. Everyone has a right to free speech, what they don't have a right to is the right to be free from the consequences of their speech. That is why I always say, think before you speak. If Rachel were to say something stupid and face advertiser boycotts as a result, well...that's the consequences of her speech.
 
Buck Ewer said:
Gopdailydose only gave half the story ... ON PURPOSE.
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Oh wow, I didn't realize you had mind reading powers. Awesome man. You should totally go to vegas, I bet you could make some sweet cash at the poker tables with your ability to know what people are thinking.

I mean, I thought there was a chance it could be that the source in question heard the news at the start of it coming out, when it was being presented as a full re-instatement, and then simply hadn't heard and/or updated yet that the original reports were a mistake and it was previously recorded episodes. But since you're able to read minds and can declare that they did it ON PURPOSE, I can rest easy.

Thank you and your super powers.
 
disneydude said:
I agree that people have every right to hold opposing views and it does not necessarily rise to the level of defamation. That said....people also have a right to counter those opposing views. What I hear most often is people speaking out and then crying when they have to face the consequences of their speech. Everyone has a right to free speech, what they don't have a right to is the right to be free from the consequences of their speech. That is why I always say, think before you speak. If Rachel were to say something stupid and face advertiser boycotts as a result, well...that's the consequences of her speech.
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By that rationale, every place in the world has free speech since it's always about consequences. Go ahead and mock Muhammed in Iran because, short of cutting everyone tongue out, they can't prevent it and afterall, free speech is not hindered because anything that would happen to that person afterwards is just consequences of that speech.
 
disneydude said:
When is Phil Robertson going to speak out about the multi-fiber clothing that the Lord also finds to be an abomination?
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Misinterpreted text. Typical liberal tactic, if you don't like it strawman it.
 
calamity said:
Now we can focus on the important stuff. Who in their right mind would watch that stupid show once the novelty wears off? It's a show that would quickly get old. After one season, I'd be burned out on it. But, hey, people out there can't get enough of Honey Boo Boo, and I couldn't even watch one full episode of that without clicking it off.
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To each their own I supposed. One of the things I'm doing this weekend is testing 4 different custom reloads for 9mm for speed and grouping. Probably not what you would enjoy. But then I wonder how people can stomach shows like Project Runway. Or Survivor for that matter.
 
Korimyr the Rat said:
You have your right to your own opinion, no matter how ****ing stupid it is, and to speak that opinion in public.

You don't have the right to a job, and if you publicly embarrass your employer, they are well within their rights to fire you.
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Not if you are union. Collective bargaining means you can be an asshole as long as the Democrat party gets your "contribution".
 
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