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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I agree that people have every right to hold opposing views and it does not necessarily rise to the level of defamation. That said....people also have a right to counter those opposing views. What I hear most often is people speaking out and then crying when they have to face the consequences of their speech. Everyone has a right to free speech, what they don't have a right to is the right to be free from the consequences of their speech. That is why I always say, think before you speak. If Rachel were to say something stupid and face advertiser boycotts as a result, well...that's the consequences of her speech.
    We have a real problem today in regard to Free Speech. It is getting to the point that progressive judges are now ruling on hurt feelings as something that violates discrimination laws. We just saw the judge in Colorado rule in favor on the basis of hurt feelings of the gay couple that wanted a wedding cake and the baker refused because it went against his moral conscience to create something to be used in a ceremony his religious beliefs did not support. And this was done in a state that doesn't even recognize gay marriage to be legal. We also have Progressives in Congress proposing new Hate Speech law in the name of politics of sexual orientation.

    What you state as being challenged amounts to bullying. That's the way GLAAD operates. This gay organization goes after faith based organizations because of their religious beliefs in traditional marriage calling it defamation. It is why they went after Robertson. Pressuring A&E and the sponsors into reacting. In previous suits that GLAAD has filed and got lucky to get before a judge like the one in Colorado, they are able to silence the speech of others. It's appalling. In the past few years states/judges have shown they are not using the Constitution to be the basis for their laws and rulings and instead have replaced it with "protection from hurt feelings". It has provoked Republicans to offer legislation that would put an end to this type of bullying by insuring people of faith their constitutional rights. I must say how encouraged I was to see GLAAD receive the backlash they did from the public over the whole Duck Dynasty thing. In that I find hope for the future. If a group is going to demand tolerance than they best be practicing it themselves.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh I understand quite well. People pick and choose all the time which laws they want to obey and those they don't. History is full of cafeteria selection....Religion is full of instances where people decide yesterday's "abomination" is ok today...but others are not because they don't want them to be quite yet. Its pretty simple.
    Sounds a lot like the health insurance law. The administration just picks and chooses which parts of it they would like to enforce based on political expedience. Your comparison between the Obama administration and religious hypocracy is noticed and appreciated. Now if only his supporters could see it we might be able to make some real progress. But they won't as long as it is supporting their current opinion.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    To each their own I supposed. One of the things I'm doing this weekend is testing 4 different custom reloads for 9mm for speed and grouping. Probably not what you would enjoy. But then I wonder how people can stomach shows like Project Runway. Or Survivor for that matter.
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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Oh I understand quite well. People pick and choose all the time which laws they want to obey and those they don't. History is full of cafeteria selection....Religion is full of instances where people decide yesterday's "abomination" is ok today...but others are not because they don't want them to be quite yet. Its pretty simple.
    That's grossly ignorant. Christians are bound to follow the moral law only through association with the Spirit, they are not bound by ceremonial law in any way. While Jews (of Christ's time) believed that acts could bring someone fruit of the Spirit and even salvation, Christians believe only in faith. Christians understand that the law does not bring salvation, it never could and it never will. Only through faith can one find God.

    That's basically the gospel right there. If you don't understand that, you've got no business discussing the issue. It's like someone totally ignorant trying to discuss any other issue, just sad. The only thing displayed by your rant is ignorance. No one who has studied anything about the Bible is fooled by your clueless blahblah.

    And the person who liked that post should know better. That like only displays that some old people are still complete idiots regarding the Bible.
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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by tech30528 View Post
    Misinterpreted text. Typical liberal tactic, if you don't like it strawman it.
    Its not misinterpreted at all. The fact of the matter is, the text is quite clear. Unless of course you are one of those "Cafeteria Christians" that pick and choose what you want to follow and what you don't.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Its not misinterpreted at all. The fact of the matter is, the text is quite clear. Unless of course you are one of those "Cafeteria Christians" that pick and choose what you want to follow and what you don't.
    You are reading it only in your own context and excluding the context of the time and the entire message. Research (TRUE research) has no bias.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    We have a real problem today in regard to Free Speech. It is getting to the point that progressive judges are now ruling on hurt feelings as something that violates discrimination laws. We just saw the judge in Colorado rule in favor on the basis of hurt feelings of the gay couple that wanted a wedding cake and the baker refused because it went against his moral conscience to create something to be used in a ceremony his religious beliefs did not support. And this was done in a state that doesn't even recognize gay marriage to be legal. We also have Progressives in Congress proposing new Hate Speech law in the name of politics of sexual orientation.

    What you state as being challenged amounts to bullying. That's the way GLAAD operates. This gay organization goes after faith based organizations because of their religious beliefs in traditional marriage calling it defamation. It is why they went after Robertson. Pressuring A&E and the sponsors into reacting. In previous suits that GLAAD has filed and got lucky to get before a judge like the one in Colorado, they are able to silence the speech of others. It's appalling. In the past few years states/judges have shown they are not using the Constitution to be the basis for their laws and rulings and instead have replaced it with "protection from hurt feelings". It has provoked Republicans to offer legislation that would put an end to this type of bullying by insuring people of faith their constitutional rights. I must say how encouraged I was to see GLAAD receive the backlash they did from the public over the whole Duck Dynasty thing. In that I find hope for the future. If a group is going to demand tolerance than they best be practicing it themselves.
    Sorry...but if the religious groups would keep religion where is belongs, there would be no need for GLAAD and other groups to fight to restrain them. The problem is..many of the so called "Christian" groups are not content to keep religion in churches. They want to infiltrate their perverted brand of Christianity into the public square in much the same manner that the Pharisees do. They want to stand on the street corners and shout their prayers so that men/women will see them and "hopefully" see what good "Christians" they are. The reality is that these so called "Christians" know very little about the man they profess to worship.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    We have a real problem today in regard to Free Speech. It is getting to the point that progressive judges are now ruling on hurt feelings as something that violates discrimination laws. We just saw the judge in Colorado rule in favor on the basis of hurt feelings of the gay couple that wanted a wedding cake and the baker refused because it went against his moral conscience to create something to be used in a ceremony his religious beliefs did not support. And this was done in a state that doesn't even recognize gay marriage to be legal. We also have Progressives in Congress proposing new Hate Speech law in the name of politics of sexual orientation.

    What you state as being challenged amounts to bullying. That's the way GLAAD operates. This gay organization goes after faith based organizations because of their religious beliefs in traditional marriage calling it defamation. It is why they went after Robertson. Pressuring A&E and the sponsors into reacting. In previous suits that GLAAD has filed and got lucky to get before a judge like the one in Colorado, they are able to silence the speech of others. It's appalling. In the past few years states/judges have shown they are not using the Constitution to be the basis for their laws and rulings and instead have replaced it with "protection from hurt feelings". It has provoked Republicans to offer legislation that would put an end to this type of bullying by insuring people of faith their constitutional rights. I must say how encouraged I was to see GLAAD receive the backlash they did from the public over the whole Duck Dynasty thing. In that I find hope for the future. If a group is going to demand tolerance than they best be practicing it themselves.
    BTW....tolerance does not require one be tolerant of the intolerant. That is just circular reasoning.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    BTW....tolerance does not require one be tolerant of the intolerant. That is just circular reasoning.
    Intolerance of anyone is intolerance. Circular and factual.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's grossly ignorant. Christians are bound to follow the moral law only through association with the Spirit, they are not bound by ceremonial law in any way. While Jews (of Christ's time) believed that acts could bring someone fruit of the Spirit and even salvation, Christians believe only in faith. Christians understand that the law does not bring salvation, it never could and it never will. Only through faith can one find God.

    That's basically the gospel right there. If you don't understand that, you've got no business discussing the issue. It's like someone totally ignorant trying to discuss any other issue, just sad. The only thing displayed by your rant is ignorance. No one who has studied anything about the Bible is fooled by your clueless blahblah.

    And the person who liked that post should know better. That like only displays that some old people are still complete idiots regarding the Bible.
    LOL....you simply displayed that you are just another "Cafeteria Christian"....you rather "conveniently" decide that there are parts of the bible that are god's law...and part that...well.....just are important for you to follow.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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