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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We are talking free speech, you wouldn't want someone to get punished for free speech right? So it should be illegal for your boss to fire you for calling him an asshole right?
    I don't have to worry about it, I don't work for assholes

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    We are talking free speech, you wouldn't want someone to get punished for free speech right? So it should be illegal for your boss to fire you for calling him an asshole right?
    My boss would respect me for having the balls to say it.
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    So there is absolutely no evidence this woman, whom you called a slut, did this but you are ready to take someone's word as evidence. Guess you don't think witch hunts have to end when it's going after the certain people.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    dude the suspension has been lifted, including the season filmed already and the 2015 season. it is already over.

    Since the "redneck vote" is their target audience and the people complaining do not even watch the show, kudos to A&E for making a smart business decision
    A&E has the right to make any decision they want. And, the people who don't like it, one way or the other, can boycott them. That's freedom, by definition, IMO.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So you don't care about hypothetical, don't want to talk about A&E's rights, and suddenly are all about no "guilt by association."
    Only if you you lack the ability to understand basic English: 1) your hypothetical doesn't address anything of merit. it brings up an irrelevant act that has no bearing on the discussion, because 1) I don't need to account for the behavior of random conservatives 2) it's an attempt at Tu quoque 3) Your hypothetical ignored the fact that A&E isn't acting on some morally principled position, but responding to the threat of a commercial boycott from GLAAD. An action that clearly doesn't serve their long term interests and simply adds perceived legitimacy to their opposition while failing to address the topic (which lacks a clear social mandate like IR relationships) in a more constructive manor.

    hence, the value of free speech over simple attempts to suppress it. because if we follow the principle of free speech, we rob Phil of any attempt to claim a commercial, moral, and strategic victory here; make him look like an ass; avoid legitimizing the perception that groups like glaad are trying to blur the lines between acceptance and tolerance (a criticism that seems very legitimate) and waging a war on traditional values; and can possibly promote an idea, while clearly trending in that direction, hasn't reached a clear social consensus

    Because it leads to an inconvenient place for you politically.
    No, something being irrelevant means it has no bearing on any point I raised . Not that it's inconvenient for me. You lacking the ability to understand the very simple reason why it's irrelevant doesn't change that and isn't my problem

    A&E is not bound by any law to put Phil Robertson on TV.
    No **** sherlock, which is why I pointed out the concept of free speech was different than constitutional 1st amendment protection. Or does the difference between what is legal and what should be done escape you like most other simple concepts?


    End of story. They don't have to do that, and are well within their rights to say no.
    I'm still lost on how raising irrelevant points addresses anything in my argument

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My boss would respect me for having the balls to say it.
    And 95% of the other bosses would too right? Gimme a break.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I don't have to worry about it, I don't work for assholes
    That wasn't the question was it? Should it also be illegal for a boss to fire you for you calling him an asshole?

    I know you are running fast from this question.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    That wasn't the question was it? Should it also be illegal for a boss to fire you for you calling him an asshole?

    I know you are running fast from this question.
    I am not running from anything, why do your persist in this ridiculous dialogue. I would think if you wanted to have a discussion about balls you would actually have the balls to start a thread about it. To answer your question name calling will not get you fired, if it does it will be tied to other things like performance.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    To answer your question name calling will not get you fired, if it does it will be tied to other things like performance.
    Now you are flat out lying. Yes, calling your boss an asshole CAN and in most cases WILL get you fired.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Now you are flat out lying. Yes, calling your boss an asshole CAN and in most cases WILL get you fired.
    Only if he/she is an insecure pussy which means I wouldn't be working there to begin with. Of course I have always had performance paying careers and a good looking P&L affords one many more privileges when it comes to honest feed back.

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    Re: Phil Robertson returns to A&E

    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    A&E has the right to make any decision they want. And, the people who don't like it, one way or the other, can boycott them. That's freedom, by definition, IMO.
    Now you know that is not true.
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