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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Protecting our embassy, from the sounds of it. Or should we not have an embassy there and leave a fledgling nation to the wolves?
    Leave a fledgling nation to the wolves? The janjaweed have been confirmed to have links to al-Qaeda and islamic terrorist since all the way back in 2004. We tried to instigate some wars in more oil rich countries first. Since those didn't pan out now we're in Sudan. I doubt it'll go anywhere though, there just isn't enough profit.
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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    But they are under fire so we must send 45,000 to restore order. Remember that the 9/11/2001 terror attack required 19 "troops" but our response was hardly proportional.
    What.
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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    News from The Associated Press

    And in case you're wondering: South Sudan: Obama Sends 45 U.S. Troops to African Nation | TIME.com

    So U.S. troops were deployed to South Sudan to protect our embassy and people there and our military is already coming under fire. Will be interesting to see how, or if we respond to this attack and provocation on U.S. military personnel and equipment.
    Hmm, I wonder what George Clooney is thinking of this, seeing as he pushed so hard for this country's existence.

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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    But they are under fire so we must send 45,000 to restore order. Remember that the 9/11/2001 terror attack required 19 "troops" but our response was hardly proportional.
    What what?

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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    South Sudan separated from Sudan to become a new nation in 2011 after a U.S.-backed peace process and a long civil war, and the United States and its allies have injected billions of dollars into the fledgling country.
    But its future has been severely tested by ethnic strife that broke out anew a week ago, killing more than 500 people, according to the United Nations
    4 U.S. troops injured during evacuation mission in strife-torn South Sudan - The Washington Post

    I confess to not even know there was a South Sudan; what I am wondering about though is why
    the " injection" of $ billions by the US and it's allies?

    Humanitarian aid? What??
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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    4 U.S. troops injured during evacuation mission in strife-torn South Sudan - The Washington Post

    I confess to not even know there was a South Sudan; what I am wondering about though is why
    the " injection" of $ billions by the US and it's allies?

    Humanitarian aid? What??
    They have oil, timber and mineral deposits and have adopted English as the official language; my guess is crony capitalism of the first order and a possible location for US military bases in "the region". Billions of US dollars are not tossed out without careful consideration (political advantage) by our congress critters.
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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    They have oil, timber and mineral deposits and have adopted English as the official language; my guess is crony capitalism of the first order and a possible location for US military bases in "the region". Billions of US dollars are not tossed out without careful consideration (political advantage) by our congress critters.
    appreciate the references. I wonder if the Chinese are already there? Took the libery of googling it up..looky here:
    Southern Sudanese hip-hop star Emmanuel Jal noted that China was seen positively by Sudanese and Africans due to its
    non interference policy, only doing business, saying-

    "The Chinese don't influence our politics, They don't comment on it, and what they want, they pay for -- sometimes double the amount.
    This tends to make all Africans happy -- from the dictators to the democrats, There isn't a party in Africa that doesn't like them.
    Even if you're a rebel movement and you say to them you can secure gold, the Chinese will simply say they want to buy it.
    The only foreign policy advice I heard from China was when they said to Sudan, 'Don't go back to war.' That's all they said. They didn't push anything else.
    China

    so maybe we are learing from the Chinese? * one would hope so*
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    A mission to evacuate Americans from South Sudan was aborted Saturday when an aircraft carrying U.S. military members was fired upon as it prepared to land in Bor, wounding four of them, the Pentagon said.

    The most severely damaged aircraft was thought to have been hit in the fuel line, a military official speaking on condition of anonymity said.

    All three aircraft -- CV-22 Ospreys -- were diverted to Entebbe, Uganda, which is not where their flights originated, the official said. Another aircraft then flew the wounded to Nairobi, Kenya, U.S. Africa Command said in a statement.

    The four service members were in stable condition after treatment, the statement said.

    Pentagon officials were trying to determine how to mount another effort to evacuate the roughly three dozen Americans in South Sudan, where they have been working for the United Nations, a senior U.S. official said on condition of anonymity.

    Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel was "reviewing options," Pentagon press secretary Rear Adm. John Kirby said. "Whatever we do it will be in coordination with the State Department," he added.

    The White House said U.S. President Barack Obama was briefed before dawn Saturday while aboard Air Force One after landing in Hawaii, then met with his national security team on the matter.
    Evacuation aborted as U.S. planes come under fire in South Sudan - CNN.com

    An update.

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    Another update:

    US President Barack Obama warned the leaders of South Sudan against a military coup Saturday after four US servicemen were wounded in an attack on their aircraft in the increasingly unstable country.

    "Any effort to seize power through the use of military force will result in the end of longstanding support from the United States and the international community," the White House said in a statement.

    Obama stressed that the South Sudanese leaders "have a responsibility to support our efforts to secure American personnel and citizens in Juba and Bor," the capital and a rebel-held flashpoint town in the African nation.

    The president's comments came after three CV-22 Osprey aircraft came under fire in South Sudan as they headed to Bor to help with efforts to evacuate Americans from the country teetering on the brink of a return to civil war.

    The attack damaged the tiltrotor aircraft, forcing them to divert to Uganda. The wounded were then flown to Nairobi for medical treatment and are now in "stable condition," the Pentagon said in a statement.

    The attack underlined the increasingly dangerous situation in South Sudan, where at least one UN base has also come under attack in recent days, with the murder of two Indian peacekeepers and possibly dozens of civilians.

    The United States, Britain, Kenya and Uganda have been carrying out evacuation missions for their nationals.

    Oil companies have flown out their workers after the death of at least five South Sudanese oil workers on Wednesday, with Chinese state oil company China National Petroleum Corp confirming it was pulling out its staff.

    Oil production accounts for more than 95 percent of South Sudan's fledgling economy.
    AFP: Obama warns S. Sudan after US military personnel wounded

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    Re: Us military aircraft hit in s. Sudan

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    News from The Associated Press

    And in case you're wondering: South Sudan: Obama Sends 45 U.S. Troops to African Nation | TIME.com

    So U.S. troops were deployed to South Sudan to protect our embassy and people there and our military is already coming under fire. Will be interesting to see how, or if we respond to this attack and provocation on U.S. military personnel and equipment.
    im not saying that it is right, but seriously people we cant afford (both figuratively referring to our state of mind, and literally because we are $16 trillion in debt). Help the guys out, give the govt some help or give the rebels some help an bring it up in 20 years and say they owe us.
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