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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Also, the republicans were able to pour billions into the presidential race because "corporations are people". Well, that makes A&E people as well with all the civil rights that go with it and their opinion is much more acceptable IMHO than the opinions of Phil.
    A&E is also corporate entity whose management has a fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders while the Robertsons are a family who apparently feel an intense loyalty to God and their patriarch but really don't owe anyone anything. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, but I imagine some heads in addition to Phil's will roll if the highest rated nonfictional show in cable history goes down the tubes, so to speak. A&E might own the rights to "Duck Dynasty," but it's discovering that it doesn't own the Robertsons. I think A&E executives stepped on their crank on this one and I imagine some people at Disney and Hearst (the owners of A&E) are not happy about it.
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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    the highest rated nonfictional show in cable history
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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Not at all. It is exactly what is happening.
    No, that is not what is happening. Robertson can say his stupid stuff as much as he likes. But he will not be working for A&E (or be on their network with new episodes) if he does that. It is his free choice to make a decision to keep voicing his opinion. Nobody is stopping him from that, he is just getting the angry reactions that go hand in hand with saying inflammatory remarks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    A&E is in the wrong. He did not make a comparison.
    A&E is wrong for terminating him for honestly answering a question.
    No, you are of the opinion that A&E is wrong. I do not know what you are talking about when you say comparison. I did not say anything about him making a comparison in this post you are responding to.

    A&E is IMHO perfectly in their right to not work with someone who they disagree with about gays.

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    An no, it isn't bigoted.
    And yes, IMHO it is very bigoted.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How many of them clicked "like" because they were forwarded that image with an inaccurate quote that made it look like A&E was firing him for basically nothing?
    Why don't you find out, and get back to us?
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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    1.4 million bible thumpers, bigots and rednecks showing their support for the hatred of gays. Why would anyone be surprised?
    I guess that includes the A&E network, because I doubt this is the first time his beliefs were known. A&E knew it from the start. I doubt you'll be watching any of their shows from now on, right?
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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I guess that includes the A&E network, because I doubt this is the first time his beliefs were known. A&E knew it from the start.
    It's one thing for people to assume you're an idiot, and quite another to open your mouth and remove any doubt.

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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Intuition? How about we play, and you tell me of an evolutionary mechanism that would support a primarily homosexual method for admixing genes? Yeah thought so..
    You've already demonstrated that, while you believe in evolution, you only believe ideas that don't conflict with your beliefs, which I suspect you've internalized, making changing your mind about more than a simple change of an opinion, vut a change in your identity.


    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Can it? Social changes like this rarely yield results quickly. However, we can look at nations that have exclusively embraced homosexualism such as the Netherlands for clues; we see an increase of out of wedlock births in the last 15 years to the tune of 50%. In other words, marriage, as it was in Holland, doesn't seem to mean what it used to. Holland's population, like many European nations is being propped up by Muslim immigration. ironic, eh?
    All joking aside, you seem like a reasonably intelligent person, which is why it surprises me that you didn't anticipate my response to what you just wrote. Correlation does not prove causation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    So? How does opposing it make someone a bigot?
    I don't think I ever actually called you a bigot, though I did accuse you of walking a fine line. Having said that, I think the term is casually tossed around to the point that it's intended meaning is lost. Are you a bigot? Perhaps, but I really wouldn't pretend to know you. I'll concede that maybe your not.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Convenient, and how thoughtful of you, but frankly, I've forgotten more about the topic of homosexuality both scientifically, and psychologically, than you'll ever know. All you can do is exactly what I stated which is point to studies that are methodologically flawed as to be mostly useless, and scientific hypothesis' that are not reproducible, rest mostly on conjecture, and assumptions, and as of yet, entirely 100% unverifiable. Next?
    LOL, yikes, I think I hit a nerve. Apparently you know me.... Yes you can find flaws in everything that doesn't meet with your approval. It's amazing that you believe that anything can be known at all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Yes, that's why I qualified my statement with all things being equal.. I am aware and I agree that a loving parent, or parents that truly care for their children are better than those that don't, but isn't that stating the obvious. I try not to be pretentious when making assertions, as not to be impolite to my audience.
    Touche...

    All things being equal does not mean that if they aren't equal that they are bad...

    Far as impolite, I guess you justify impoliteness on your perceived impoliteness in my previous post? Ok fair enough...But you took the low road...

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    The difference in that our seedy side doesn't define us as a group.
    So seedy lifestyles define people as groups? Really? Wow. Your a piece of work.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    And yet you come at me as if I'm some ignorant knuckle dragging know nothing, and yet, you're barely aware of what's actually happening right now in many states. Indoctrination by presenting a singular rosey viewpoint of homosexuality without a qualified alternative opinion is institutionalizing by definition.
    "Knuckle dragging know-nothing"....lol...That was good.

    Having grown up in the presence of several LGBT people who were good people. They weren't seedy or perverted. They were just people. Because I don't consider information about the acceptance of people free choices in order to break cultural and religious stereotypes as "indoctrination, your right I don't concern myself with it. If you'd like to enlighten me, I will evaluate it and we can continue this discussion....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Peer review by an APA sponsored group or publication with skin in the game is as equally meaningless when attempting to unveil the truth. You're psychological peer review is as equally religious as any Christian opinion. They both rely on a faith in their opinions and speculation.
    Again with this "nothing can be know crap"...Moving on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    No, you and others that knee jerk into anyone that disagrees with you are the ones walking the line, and I'd wager that I've proven that in regards to calling people bigots like dishing out candy, you've crossed the line, and I am here to put you back over it.
    How's putting me "back over the line" work'in out for you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    All available evidence, on BOTH sides of the issue is haphazard, flawed, poorly misunderstood, and based on one's belief that they really wish it to be true. Whether it is true or can be verified as true doesn't seem to matter to those with skin in the game. I have no skin in the game, I am not a homosexual, nor do I care what they do on their own time, and I believe they have a right to be left alone as long as they're not hurting anyone, but I can't stand when the left attempts to brow beat those in opposition if nothing other than their own belief system, because under it all, and if you take the wrapping off, it's all just really a wanting to believe what they want to believe, but no authoritative reason to do so.
    Since when has anyone who held an idea based on religious dogma been able to evaluate an idea objectively?

    Having said that, I'll agree that their are "believers" on both sides. At the end of the day I'll err on the side of freedom, thx...

    I wrote this in haste....wanted to get you a reply...Didn't proof read, apologies if there are typo's...

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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    A&E is IMHO perfectly in their right to not work with someone who they disagree with about gays.

    Just out of curiosity, do you think you should be able to fire someone that is gay or pro-gay then?

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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    It's one thing for people to assume you're an idiot, and quite another to open your mouth and remove any doubt.
    Completely irrelevant, got anymore irrelevancies to reveal. Remember, follow your own advice. This is about business, and A&E knew all along. They supported the existence of this belief even before Robertson spoke out, so their outrage is phoney........and purely for business reasons. So you'll be boycotting A&E from now on too, won't you?
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    Re: 'boycott a&e' facebook support page for phil robertson gets over 1m likes

    Quote Originally Posted by Ahlevah View Post
    A&E is also corporate entity whose management has a fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders while the Robertsons are a family who apparently feel an intense loyalty to God and their patriarch but really don't owe anyone anything. It will be interesting to see how this plays out, but I imagine some heads in addition to Phil's will roll if the highest rated nonfictional show in cable history goes down the tubes, so to speak. A&E might own the rights to "Duck Dynasty," but it's discovering that it doesn't own the Robertsons. I think A&E executives stepped on their crank on this one and I imagine some people at Disney and Hearst (the owners of A&E) are not happy about it.
    Well, according to the republicans who support citizens united, corporations are people and this person (A&E) has made a moral choice not to work with Robertson.
    Former military man (and now babysitter of Donald Trump) John Kelly, is a big loud lying empty barrel!

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