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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

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    Engineers at the Department of Energy's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory announced that they have created a process that takes an enriched stew of algae and turns it into crude oil in minutes -- rather than millions of years. In a press release, PNNL stated, "In the PNNL process, a slurry of wet algae is pumped into the front end of a chemical reactor. Once the system is up and running, out comes crude oil in less than an hour, along with water and a byproduct stream of material containing phosphorus that can be recycled to grow more algae."

    Scientists Turn Algae Into Biofuel in Minutes | Drudge Retort

    Exxon-Mobil probably won't be liking this.
    Nah, they'll probably just invest in it and look for a way to make money. Honestly, these companies don't care where there money comes from. Oil is oil after all. Just hope this doesn't end up causing the same mess that the biofuel from grain

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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

    Large scale. That's the goal. Transportation (and by that, I mean goods, we rely on trucking for the majority of our food and consumer goods) relies on crude oil, it will take god knows how long to ween off of that. Large scale production is the name of the game, not ideal lab situations.

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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

    But, will the resultant product replace all the other stuff we get from regular crude? Petrochemicals, asphalt, plastics... All those things that are the big ticket items that off set the cost of making gasoline and diesel?
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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

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    But, will the resultant product replace all the other stuff we get from regular crude? Petrochemicals, asphalt, plastics... All those things that are the big ticket items that off set the cost of making gasoline and diesel?
    But it doesnt have to fulfill all those roles. You can start with residential power. And then commercial power.

    You hopefully can translate it into fuel for transportation, like other biofuels.

    If you do that, then you'd have plenty of crude oil for manufacturing
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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Nah, they'll probably just invest in it and look for a way to make money. Honestly, these companies don't care where there money comes from. Oil is oil after all. Just hope this doesn't end up causing the same mess that the biofuel from grain
    I hope you are right...the oceans and esp tidal areas are more fragile than people think. But the corn focused biofuels damaged alot of other industries that depended on corn (financially). I dont think that would be the case with algae.
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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If it was workable, Exxon-Mobil would be doing it themselves.

    I just wonder how much tax payer money was wasted on this.
    I posted a link on previous page that stated that Exxon has already put a 100 million into research. They want to be able to have a product that can be processed in existing refineries to make it economically viable. The president of Exxon on the Charlie Rose show earlier this year stated these biofuels will probably not be ready for 25 years.

    Here is the link again.

    Exxon Refocusing Algae Biofuels Program After $100 Million Spend - Bloomberg

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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Nah, they'll probably just invest in it and look for a way to make money. Honestly, these companies don't care where there money comes from. Oil is oil after all. Just hope this doesn't end up causing the same mess that the biofuel from grain
    It looks really promising. For one thing it isn't going to take up acres of ground that could be producing food in order to produce fuel. And if they can process it through existing refineries just to make jet fuel omg how great would that be!

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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

    I'm generally pretty skeptical of biofuels and petroleum conversion technologies. The former for reasons others have elaborated on already (lack of real economy and the impact it has on the agricultural market) and the latter because there are enormous hurdles when it comes to translating these laboratory breakthroughs into mass production. They are years if not decades away from viability and there are other options that are in my opinion much more promising and already further along. I think no matter what we're looking at a conventional natural gas, coal, and petroleum future for at least the next twenty to thirty years and likely more. However in the interlude I think solar will continue to mature, new nuclear techniques will be adopted in developing countries and more plants will be built, and batter technologies will improve dramatically allowing for a shift in emphasis to electrical generation as opposed to transportation fuels (think Tesla but 15 years down the road and imagine what you might see).

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    Re: Scientists turn algea into biofuel in minutes

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