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    GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    CAITLIN MACNEAL Ė DECEMBER 18, 2013, 4:34 PM EST3001

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    Rep. Jack Kingston (R-GA), a primary candidate in the 2014 Georgia Senate race, on Saturday suggested poor students sweep floors in order to get a free lunch, according to the Huffington Post.
    Kingston opposes the federal school lunch program, which subsidizes meals for kids from low-income families, but he said that if schools do provide meals, students should learn that nothing is free.

    "But one of the things Iíve talked to the secretary of agriculture about: Why donít you have the kids pay a dime, pay a nickel to instill in them that there is, in fact, no such thing as a free lunch? Or maybe sweep the floor of the cafeteria -- and yes, I understand that that would be an administrative problem, and I understand that it would probably lose you money," he said at a Jackson County Republican Party meeting. "But think what we would gain as a society in getting people -- getting the myth out of their head that there is such a thing as a free lunch."
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    This guy is the son of a university professor. He had a fairly privileged upbringing and thus has no idea what it is like to grow up poor as a kid. What an asshole. I mean what is he wanting to stand there at the lunch line and tell some 1st grader "Hey kid, you can have your Chilimac today, but first I need you to take this broom here and sweep the floor in front of all your friends".

    Personally, I grew up poor. Very poor actually, we did not take free or reduced lunches, we just brought ours instead (the same crappy lunch every day). However, I know what its like to be a poor kid. I know what its like to boil water to take a bath in for months on end because your gas is cut off. I know what its like having no A/C in Arkansas summers living in a trailer. This guy has no idea. Despite growing up poor, I always knew the value of work, indeed growing up poor is what instilled it in me. I got my first real job when I was 15 and have worked my whole life since. Before I was married I worked 2 jobs to get ahead. We would be considered upper middle class now I suppose, but I worked hard to get here and I did not need some privileged extreme right jackass to instill that in me. How crazy and mean do these guys have to get before we all say this is ridiculous, go home, and for God sakes get the hell out of government. We don't want people like you, Jack Kingston, telling us how to run our lives or our country. I don't see this one as a right or left issue, I see it as an anti-jackass issue.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Kingston is further tacking to the right of Broun in Georgia's 3-way GOP Senatorial primary, if that's possible..
    Three GOP House members running for the retiring Chambliss's seat..
    Which is why the Democrat Nunn is given a good chance..
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Read more here: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    This guy is the son of a university professor. He had a fairly privileged upbringing and thus has no idea what it is like to grow up poor as a kid. What an asshole. I mean what is he wanting to stand there at the lunch line and tell some 1st grader "Hey kid, you can have your Chilimac today, but first I need you to take this broom here and sweep the floor in front of all your friends".

    Personally, I grew up poor. Very poor actually, we did not take free or reduced lunches, we just brought ours instead (the same crappy lunch every day). However, I know what its like to be a poor kid. I know what its like to boil water to take a bath in for months on end because your gas is cut off. I know what its like having no A/C in Arkansas summers living in a trailer. This guy has no idea. Despite growing up poor, I always knew the value of work, indeed growing up poor is what instilled it in me. I got my first real job when I was 15 and have worked my whole life since. Before I was married I worked 2 jobs to get ahead. We would be considered upper middle class now I suppose, but I worked hard to get here and I did not need some privileged extreme right jackass to instill that in me. How crazy and mean do these guys have to get before we all say this is ridiculous, go home, and for God sakes get the hell out of government. We don't want people like you, Jack Kingston, telling us how to run our lives or our country. I don't see this one as a right or left issue, I see it as an anti-jackass issue.
    As for your OP, we currently have special needs students clean the lunch room..
    These kids are not teased or bullied, but the poor would be, further humiliation..

    A work-fare program after school would be more realistic..

    I am a retired chem/physics teacher whose Dad was an NCO "lifer", not exactly rolling in money..
    As the oldest sibling, I was fortunate to get a Federal loan which I paid back and a full-tuition scholarship .
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Kingston is one of many people in this world who are full of crap.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Read more here: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    This guy is the son of a university professor. He had a fairly privileged upbringing and thus has no idea what it is like to grow up poor as a kid. What an asshole. I mean what is he wanting to stand there at the lunch line and tell some 1st grader "Hey kid, you can have your Chilimac today, but first I need you to take this broom here and sweep the floor in front of all your friends".

    ~snipped your personal history because...personally...I'm not interested~
    I see nothing wrong with teaching a child that TANSTAAFL. Heck, I taught my own two sons that lesson at an early age.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Kingston is further tacking to the right of Broun in Georgia's 3-way GOP Senatorial primary, if that's possible..
    Three GOP House members running for the retiring Chambliss's seat..
    Which is why the Democrat Nunn is given a good chance..

    As for your OP, we currently have special needs students clean the lunch room..
    These kids are not teased or bullied, but the poor would be, further humiliation..

    A work-fare program after school would be more realistic..

    I am a retired chem/physics teacher whose Dad was an NCO "lifer", not exactly rolling in money..
    As the oldest sibling, I was fortunate to get a Federal loan which I paid back and a full-tuition scholarship .
    I am not against giving older kids the opportunity to earn money at school. I remember we used to get paid to clean the gym after games. I am against a guy that at minimum came out of an upper middle class childhood saying that kids should have to work for the free lunch program as if its some 2nd graders fault his parents are poor. His implication of course is that if we allow a poor kid to get a free lunch at school, it will lead to a lifetime of laziness.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    I see nothing wrong with teaching a child that TANSTAAFL. Heck, I taught my own two sons that lesson at an early age.
    There's not much wrong with teaching them the value of hard work. There is something wrong with teaching a child that because of his or her parent's financial situation, he/she gets to do manual labor for the school food essentially handed to his or her classmates by their parents without nearly as much thought.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    OMG! Teach a can to earn something we can just take from others and hand out instead? I can see why liberals are in a dither....it goes against their principle value of taking from someone else and handing out for nothing!

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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    And as you mentioned, poor kids and families are reticent to take the free lunch..
    I blame that on such things as peer pressure over teasing, bullying, and plain looking-down on folks..
    Whether people like it or not, we as teachers know some of our kids are hungry because their parents are illegals..
    We do our best to feed them when we see things like dry-heaving in class and near passing-out due to hunger .
    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    I am not against giving older kids the opportunity to earn money at school. I remember we used to get paid to clean the gym after games. I am against a guy that at minimum came out of an upper middle class childhood saying that kids should have to work for the free lunch program as if its some 2nd graders fault his parents are poor. His implication of course is that if we allow a poor kid to get a free lunch at school, it will lead to a lifetime of laziness.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    OMG! Teach a can to earn something we can just take from others and hand out instead? I can see why liberals are in a dither....it goes against their principle value of taking from someone else and handing out for nothing!
    I have never taken a cent in any government benefits for anything. Not even so much as an unemployment check. However, I do not believe that a little kid should be given manual labor for a 2 dollar lunch because their parents are poor. I think as a society we can afford to give these kids a lunch when they go to school. I would imagine that at least 90% of people share my view on that.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    And as you mentioned, poor kids and families are reticent to take the free lunch..
    I blame that on such things as peer pressure over teasing, bullying, and plain looking-down on folks..
    You hit the nail on the head with that. When you grow up poor, the last thing you want is for your friends to know you are poor. At least with me, that is why I was always looking to make money anyway I could. Mow lawns, haul hay, anything I could do to make some money for myself before I was old enough to get an actual job. I wanted the money so I could have the things that my friends had. That said, I don't think further shaming kids like this guy is basically saying we should do is the best way to teach kids a work ethic.
    Last edited by SouthernDemocrat; 12-19-13 at 12:17 AM.
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