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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Schools should have no jurisdiction in the home. Once in the home, the child is no longer the schools responsibility and should no longer be subject to the will of the school.
    That's why you can choose home schooling..Please do all involved a favor and make that choice..That way you can blame yourself when your kids do poorly on standardized tests in comparison to the world, which cons love to rail against..Just let them play with video games and grow obese .
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    Math and writing require repetition. But what I find interesting here are the word choices--"extending their reach" and "jurisdiction" as opposed to "learning." Makes me think Phil-O here is a kid in school himself who resents having homework. Am I right?
    I would hope that you are right about what your own thoughts are. Someone who doesnt know what they think most likely has some serious mental disabilities.

    Again, i agree that repetition is good practice.

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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    That's why you can choose home schooling..Please do all involved a favor and make that choice..That way you can blame yourself when your kids do poorly on standardized tests in comparison to the world, which cons love to rail against..Just let them play with video games and grow obese .
    Just FYI, homeschoolers do at least as well if not better than their public and private school peers on the standardized tests. You can Google this.

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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Ive been to college, btw.
    I have heard going on campus tours can be fun.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    This is a real long shot and I have no idea why this question came to mind but how do you feel about paying children to go to school? They could pay for their own lunches. Higher grades, more per hour or class or whatever measurement?

    Just a stray question. I'm not looking to derail anything.
    For the public schools to do it themselves, not likely as they will want that money to keep. For parents to utilize, for most children it works. I use a variation which works like a bonus would at a job. The better the effort and more importantly the results the better the reward in cash. The trick is to make sure the children know the value of money BEFORE you implement such a system. Of course my children all have "regular" jobs and can earn money doing cleanup on other irregular chores I don't feel like doing. I keep some odd job they can do undone so they have a way to earn extra cash. I charge rent and such so they need the cash if they want something especially pricey and it keeps a bit of pressure on to work and SAVE.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    I have heard going on campus tours can be fun.
    I think clownfish are pretty.

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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Yeah. And you can decide not to go to college. As a child, you are bound to your parents decisions.

    I already stated that i agree with the fact that practicing in the home is good as well. But that doesnt mean a public school should be able to force their will on students.
    Now you change your position to schools forcing their will on the students and away from a measured amount of homework..Students reflect their parents attitudes in class about homework, further undercutting the process laid out by the elected BOE .
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Schools should have no jurisdiction in the home. Once in the home, the child is no longer the schools responsibility and should no longer be subject to the will of the school.
    If the students I had got by without any work outside the 50 minutes in the classroom, they would have been far more screwed than they were otherwise.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    And shaming a 2nd or 3rd grader by having them sweep a floor in front of their friends is not going to fix that. It is not the kids fault that they are poor or that their parents may have not made the best of decisions in life. They are just there to go to school so that the hopefully get a good education and do better themselves.



    I agree, but it doesn't fix that by shaming their kids.



    Of course, but the kid that comes from an upper middle class family has no idea what its like to be truly poor yet someone feels like they should pass blanket judgment on them. For example, I grew up quite poor. My kids grow up in an what would be considered demographically an upper middle class home. I am certainly happy that they get a lot more opportunities than I had when I was their age because of that. However, they have no idea what its like to be poor. It's a "free lunch" to them because they show up at school and the lunch money way pay for is in their account. I hope they all grow up to be successful. I also hope they do not grow up as sanctimonious as this congressman is.

    I am all for teaching kids the value of hard work. I just think what the congressman is proposing is a despicable way of doing so. If you don't think most kids living in poverty don't know the value of a dollar, then you don't know anything about being poor.
    You seem to be under the impression there is something shameful about work. I assure you there is no shame in it. And parents would do well and show wisdom in teaching their children there was no shame in work either.
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    Re: GOP Rep Suggests Kids Clean Schools In Exchange For Lunch

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Now you change your position to schools forcing their will on the students and away from a measured amount of homework..Students reflect their parents attitudes in class about homework, further undercutting the process laid out by the elected BOE .
    i dont see how that changes my position. I can talk about more than one issue. Hitler was elected as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    If the students I had got by without any work outside the 50 minutes in the classroom, they would have been far more screwed than they were otherwise.
    all of them? They were screwed anyways.

    Kids shod be empowered to make their own decisions. If the kid wants to study at home, great. Parents should encourahe that. If they dont want to, and the parents dont want to force them to, then let them fail as they would either way

    Smart kids study hard and get As.
    Intelligent kids dont study at all and get Cs.

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