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Obama Jabs Putin, Picks Openly Gay Delegates For Winter Olympics In Russia

Wiseone said:
Both people in this thread have described it as a "great move" not a "bold move."

If you want to argue against a straw man do it front of your mirror
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LOL - great move vs. bold move - I don't need a mirror to recognize that as nonsense.
 
A shame that Obama couldn't find even one Winter Olympic lesbian to send. At least Boitano was a Gold Medal winning Winter Olympian.
 
If they were chosen because they are gay, that means he discriminated against everyone else on the list.

Obama discriminated against the othe candidates and blatantly politicized the Olympics.

Now, there's something to be proud of.
 
I strongly support this move. A person's sexual orientation should not be a basis for discrimination. Russia’s law violates fundamental human rights. The U.S. is making a clear and positive symbolic statement.

In addition, having some high-profile gay athletes among the delegation makes good sense. The delegation is more inclusive and more representative of broad pool of people who participate in sports.
 
apdst said:
If they were chosen because they are gay, that means he discriminated against everyone else on the list.

Obama discriminated against the othe candidates and blatantly politicized the Olympics.

Now, there's something to be proud of.
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Yes, because if there's one thing America has had too much of it's heterosexuals being discriminated against in favor of homosexuals. Just ignore the fact all the other delegates (7 of them) are not openly homosexual. :roll:
 
rocket88 said:
So you can't root for the individual athletes themselves? They're not all gay you know...
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No, I cannot. When the organization they represent is flawed, unfortunately their performances are all tainted by those flaws. I generally enjoy the Olympics, but this time around it's just not going to happen.
 
apdst said:
If they were chosen because they are gay, that means he discriminated against everyone else on the list.

Obama discriminated against the othe candidates and blatantly politicized the Olympics.

Now, there's something to be proud of.
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The delegation is not the pool of competitors. The pool of competitors is based on who meets the athletic standards for participation in their sports. The delegation serves as "ambassadors" of the U.S. It can include former athletes, Olympians, and others including political officials, business leaders, etc.
 
rocket88 said:
The ironic thing is - if Obama did go, you'd be knocking him for being a hypocrite when it comes to gays. Damned if he does, damned if he don't.
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Not really rocket, just damned. :)
 
Slyfox696 said:
Yes, because if there's one thing America has had too much of it's heterosexuals being discriminated against in favor of homosexuals. Just ignore the fact all the other delegates (7 of them) are not openly homosexual. :roll:
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Discrimination is ok, sometimes?
 
Slyfox696 said:
Yes, because if there's one thing America has had too much of it's heterosexuals being discriminated against in favor of homosexuals. Just ignore the fact all the other delegates (7 of them) are not openly homosexual. :roll:
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Right, and discriminating against heterosexuals is now acceptable because of all the homosexual discrimination in the past. Two wrongs obviously make a right.
 
Tigger said:
NBC doesn't give a shart.




No. I'm not going to watch the Olympics because the only nation whose athletes I could root for will be represented by a bunch of individuals with no morals or character, who are there solely for the purpose of expressing that they have no morals or character. I cannot support that. Sorry.



He has his positive qualities, unlike the current POTUS.
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Sounds like you are the one lacking in the morals and character department.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Well gee - there's a surprise - openly gay Olympic delegates representing the US or any western nation has never happened, right - must be another one of Obama's firsts, right? Obama should come out and go himself, or at least Hillary could end the "suspense" - those would be the boldest moves.

I think the Russian law is idiotic, but so is a US President and the fools who follow him thinking this is a bold move.
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Agreed. Don't be surprised if Barack picks pink tutus for the Olympian uniforms.

This president picks the weirdest issues to take a stand on... while totally ignoring millions of American families suffering due to Obamacare.

Oh well, 2 more days and Dear Leader will leave for his Hawaiian vacation.

The rest of us can eat cake.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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Hell yea!
Give Putin the diplomatic middle finger!
Love this move Obama! Great move! [/FONT][/COLOR]
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This is an excellent way to heap more embarrassment on the Russian prestige project that is the Sochi Olympics and it costs us nothing while supporting a moral good. With the US and France taking similar stances I hope other Western countries follow suit. It was a good decision any way you slice it. Unless of course you have a rabid inability to condone anything the President does.

-Lifelong Republican voter.
 
Leave it to the right-ists to hate everything Obama..
When did your ODS begin, probably before the 2008 election..
If Pukin is so great, move there, unless you're a reporter--they turn up missing .
Tigger said:
No, I cannot. When the organization they represent is flawed, unfortunately their performances are all tainted by those flaws. I generally enjoy the Olympics, but this time around it's just not going to happen.
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Sherman123 said:
Oh my god. This fascist authoritarian chic on the right has to stop. If you admire Putin you are not a conservative, you are an authoritarian ideologue.
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I don't think one's political ideology is based on who you admire. It's possible to think a world leader is pretty kewl without plotting the overthrow of the US.

I ♥ Putin
 
Just as long as they were picked solely based on merit and not based on their homosexuality I'm fine with it.
 
Smartmouthwoman said:
I don't think one's political ideology is based on who you admire. It's possible to think a world leader is pretty kewl without plotting the overthrow of the US.

I ♥ Putin
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Then you love an authoritarian strongman. Never speak of liberty or democracy in the same breath as your own views. They do not align. You are a traitor to those journalists, activists, and citizens who have been murdered, beaten, and imprisoned in their struggle for a freer Russia. It is shameful.
 
Slyfox696 said:
Yes, because if there's one thing America has had too much of it's heterosexuals being discriminated against in favor of homosexuals. Just ignore the fact all the other delegates (7 of them) are not openly homosexual. :roll:
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Don't you know? Any time a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim achieves something, it must have been some kind of political move. They couldn't possibly be more qualified than a heterosexual, white, male, Protestant. That would be silly. Everyone knows that heterosexual, white, male, Protestants are the best people in the world. The only way that they don't automatically assume their natural dominance over everything is discrimination.

To the OP, I find this to be a great move. The world is getting smaller and more interconnected, and no country, not even a powerful one, should be permitted to abuse its citizens with impunity. International forces must be brought to bear against oppression.
 
digsbe said:
Just as long as they were picked solely based on merit and not based on their homosexuality I'm fine with it.
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If that was the case, then it wouldn't have been broadcast as "defying Putin". I think the two named in the OP are perfectly competent. I just wonder how King and Boitano feel about being held up as pawns in a geopolitical game of gotcha.
 
Paschendale said:
Don't you know? Any time a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim achieves something, it must have been some kind of political move. They couldn't possibly be more qualified than a heterosexual, white, male, Protestant. That would be silly. Everyone knows that heterosexual, white, male, Protestants are the best people in the world. The only way that they don't automatically assume their natural dominance over everything is discrimination.

To the OP, I find this to be a great move. The world is getting smaller and more interconnected, and no country, not even a powerful one, should be permitted to abuse its citizens with impunity. International forces must be brought to bear against oppression.
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To your first point, why are such people always referred to as "a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim" when they achieve something if not to point out they are "a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim"? Perhaps when people stop advertising themselves as "a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim", other people will stop commenting on the fact that they are "a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim".
 
Meh, who cares, it's not the real Olympics anyway, it's just the Winter games. :mrgreen:
 
clownboy said:
Meh, who cares, it's not the real Olympics anyway, it's just the Winter games. :mrgreen:
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Just because Canada won more gold medals than the US in the last Winter Olympics, is no reason for you to pout. :mrgreen:
 
Paschendale said:
Don't you know? Any time a gay person, or a black person, or a woman, or an atheist, Jew, or Muslim achieves something, it must have been some kind of political move. They couldn't possibly be more qualified than a heterosexual, white, male, Protestant. That would be silly. Everyone knows that heterosexual, white, male, Protestants are the best people in the world. The only way that they don't automatically assume their natural dominance over everything is discrimination.

To the OP, I find this to be a great move. The world is getting smaller and more interconnected, and no country, not even a powerful one, should be permitted to abuse its citizens with impunity. International forces must be brought to bear against oppression.
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Sounds like your beef then is with the HuPo...the paper that decided to make the fact that they are openly gay and being selected 'mean' something. Oh...and the AP, Reuters, Yahoo...MSN...
 
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