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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    You don't know much of the history of Nathan Bedford Forrest or the school or west Jacksonville.
    I am named after Nathan Bedford Forrest. Well actually after my great grandfather, who was named after Nathan Bedford Forrest. I know the guy's history. The fact that there is such a thing as a "black confederate activist" astounds me. Its like being a Jewish Holocaust denier. I was born and raised in the south, I love the south. However you will never see me flying a confederate flag because I know what it really stands for. A lot of southerners have somehow deluded themselves into thinking we were in the right during the civil war when the whole reason the south succeeded was ultimately to preserve the most vile and despicable institution in the history of mankind.
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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Meaning nothing--since they were both southern conservatives first, now, and forever--segregationist George Wallace
    Yeah, when the republicans put a knife in the heart of Southern Democrats racist hegemony they only had their economic beliefs to guide them to their party. Well, except that the Democrats were also supporting modern eugenics in the form of abortion. Sterilization and abortion of the black progeny was all the rage don't you know, dating back to a rousing speech given to the Klan on the subject by Margaret Sanger in 1928.

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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    There you go. Tell us what you know about Ft. Pillow? Who was involved; the history of the fort and the surrounding area; tell about the battle; the commanders; and their forces; the after action reports. Tell us about Bedford Forrest after the war.
    Stumped for an answer, huh? Or just too lazy to look up the information yourself. Why should I do your research for you? Hell, you can just look at the link I posted on Fort Pillow to find out what happened there. Or is that too much work?

    The guy was a scumbag; a man who made his living buying and selling other human beings, then fought to destroy the union, murdered prisoners of war because they happened to be black, and finally capped everything off by founding the KKK. You guys sure know how to pick your heroes.
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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Yeah, when the republicans put a knife in the heart of Southern Democrats racist hegemony they only had their economic beliefs to guide them to their party. Well, except that the Democrats were also supporting modern eugenics in the form of abortion. Sterilization and abortion of the black progeny was all the rage don't you know, dating back to a rousing speech given to the Klan on the subject by Margaret Sanger in 1928.

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    All good Republicans now. Or more probably Tea Party racists. The black girl? I'm guessing she's a Democrat who voted for Barack Obama.
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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    O Lord not this **** again, look man parties can change, platforms change, members change. Judge them by where they are now not where they were decades ago. You know the Republican Party has some what changed since Lincoln right?
    Lincoln wouldn't even be accepted as a Republican now. Way too radical for that outfit.
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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Maybe they should name it after the late Senator: Robert C Byrd High School

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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I have only one question here. Jacksonville, why did it take this long?

    Article is here.
    People wanting to change it were probably accused of "using the race card."

    I'm not for revising history. I'd almost be okay with leaving it as is and erecting a monument on school grounds listing each member of the school board by name then and since that supported the school being named as such and opposed changing it, some as recently as 2009 if I recall.
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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Stumped for an answer, huh? Or just too lazy to look up the information yourself. Why should I do your research for you? Hell, you can just look at the link I posted on Fort Pillow to find out what happened there. Or is that too much work?

    The guy was a scumbag; a man who made his living buying and selling other human beings, then fought to destroy the union, murdered prisoners of war because they happened to be black, and finally capped everything off by founding the KKK. You guys sure know how to pick your heroes.
    Nope. Not too much work at all. I love reading that kind of thing and have studied it for years. I am well familiar with Fort Pillow. YOU ARE NOT. If you were you wouldn't be making ignorant statements that you can't support. Forrest didn't murder POWs because they happened to be black. Prove it. Source it out to me or stay under the porch and yap like a little dog.

    Forrest was NOT a founder of the KKK.










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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    Lincoln wouldn't even be accepted as a Republican now. Way too radical for that outfit.
    "I will say, then, that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races -- that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."










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    Re: Florida School Named After KKK Grand Wizard Will Get New Name

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    Nope. Not too much work at all. I love reading that kind of thing and have studied it for years. I am well familiar with Fort Pillow. YOU ARE NOT. If you were you wouldn't be making ignorant statements that you can't support. Forrest didn't murder POWs because they happened to be black. Prove it. Source it out to me or stay under the porch and yap like a little dog.

    Forrest was NOT a founder of the KKK.
    1)
    Recent histories agree that a massacre occurred: Richard Fuchs, author of An Unerring Fire, concludes, “The affair at Fort Pillow was simply an orgy of death, a mass lynching to satisfy the basest of conduct – intentional murder – for the vilest of reasons – racism and personal enmity.
    From this link.

    2) Forrest was not the founder of the KKK, but he was it's first Grand Dragon.

    3) The only reason Forrest disbanded the Klan is because the Federal government was about to pass the Ku Klux Klan act, which would have removed habeus corpus for Klan members. Forrest was a dedicated terrorist.
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