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    Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    A federal judge ruled Monday that the National Security Agency program which collects information on nearly all telephone calls made to, from or within the United States is likely to be unconstitutional.

    U.S. District Court Judge Richard Leon found that the program appears to violate the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures. He also said the Justice Department had failed to demonstrate that collecting the so-called metadata had helped to head off terrorist attacks
    This is the stuff I have been arguing that Obama should be impeached over. Instead, Republicans have focused on birther conspiracy theories and a fake Benghazi story. While the GOP is making themselves irrelevant with their silliness, the Obama administration has been wiping it's ass with the Constitution of the United States of America. Hopefully, this decision is the first step in dismantling a program that the old Soviet Union would have had a wet dream over. A little help on this, Republicans? Please?

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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is the stuff that I had argued that Obama should be impeached over. Instead, Republicans have focused on birther conspiracy theories and a fake Benghazi story. While the GOP is making themselves irrelevant with their silliness, the Obama administration has been wiping it's ass with the Constitution of the United States of America. Hopefully, this decision is the first step in dismantling a program that the old Soviet Union would have had a wet dream over. A little help on this, Republicans? Please?

    Article is here.
    i think both parties are responsible for the mess known as the NSA.
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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i think both parties are responsible for the mess known as the NSA.
    Which party holds the presidency today? Look, I play no favorites here. I bashed the bejesus out of Bush when he was spying on Americans, but here's the deal. Bush is no longer in office. Obama should be impeached over what he is doing.
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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Which party holds the presidency today? Look, I play no favorites here. I bashed the bejesus out of Bush when he was spying on Americans, but here's the deal. Bush is no longer in office. Obama should be impeached over what he is doing.
    As Bush should have been as well. You remember what SCOTUS judge Sandra Day O'Conner had to say about Bush's illegal wiretapping?

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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is the stuff that I had argued that Obama should be impeached over. Instead, Republicans have focused on birther conspiracy theories and a fake Benghazi story. While the GOP is making themselves irrelevant with their silliness, the Obama administration has been wiping it's ass with the Constitution of the United States of America. Hopefully, this decision is the first step in dismantling a program that the old Soviet Union would have had a wet dream over. A little help on this, Republicans? Please?

    Article is here.
    Um, how do you impeach the president for following the law (bill?) that congress wrote and voted for? Is it Obama's fault that he signed and followed that law? Also note that impeachment must not only be charged by the House but have the Senate approve a finding of guilt. So we need the Senate demorats to convict a POTUS demorat - yep, that's going to be easy to do.
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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Which party holds the presidency today? Look, I play no favorites here. I bashed the bejesus out of Bush when he was spying on Americans, but here's the deal. Bush is no longer in office. Obama should be impeached over what he is doing.
    The same party that controls the Senate. Hmm...
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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    "If the president does it, it's not illegal" nothing is ever going to happen to any president.

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    It may be short lived (maybe not) but today is a victory for whistle blowers on government wrong doing.

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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Um, how do you impeach the president for following the law (bill?) that congress wrote and voted for? Is it Obama's fault that he signed and followed that law? Also note that impeachment must not only be charged by the House but have the Senate approve a finding of guilt. So we need the Senate demorats to convict a POTUS demorat - yep, that's going to be easy to do.
    Easier than impeaching Obama over a fake Benghazi story. At least get the ball rolling. Sure, it will probably fail, but what better way to get Americans to wake up and smell what's happening to the Constitution.
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    Re: Judge: NSA phone program likely unconstitutional

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    This is the stuff I have been arguing that Obama should be impeached over. Instead, Republicans have focused on birther conspiracy theories and a fake Benghazi story. While the GOP is making themselves irrelevant with their silliness, the Obama administration has been wiping it's ass with the Constitution of the United States of America. Hopefully, this decision is the first step in dismantling a program that the old Soviet Union would have had a wet dream over. A little help on this, Republicans? Please?

    Article is here.
    I don't disagree but both sides are to blame. Much of this started on Bush junior.

    The judge did stay his ruling because it will undoubtedly be appealed and will almost certainly wind up at the Supreme Court.
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