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    Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Wow, coming out of California!


    A federal judge in California has ruled in a Second Amendment case that a state-imposed waiting period to take possession of a firearm is a burden on the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.


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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow, coming out of California!


    A federal judge in California has ruled in a Second Amendment case that a state-imposed waiting period to take possession of a firearm is a burden on the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.


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    Good, From reading the article California has way too many laws on the books now.
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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow, coming out of California!


    A federal judge in California has ruled in a Second Amendment case that a state-imposed waiting period to take possession of a firearm is a burden on the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.


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    Yeah, well that's half the facts... It's because they've already gone through an approval process. In no way does it mean Californians can just go in a buy guns today or tomorrow without the usual California hoops to jump through.
    “Judge Ishii’s comparison of the waiting period to a prior restraint is significant,” Gottlieb said. “He further stated that Harris, in her motion to dismiss the case, had not shown that the waiting period law is effective in reducing gun-related violent crime, or in keeping guns out of the wrong hands where the government has already issued that purchaser a License To Carry or a Certificate Of Eligibility.
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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    I don't see a conflict there. The states imposition was redundant so this is a good development.

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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    It just shows that no matter where you are the Constitution can in fact be followed
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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Looks like someone else noticed that "infringed" part.
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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Wow, coming out of California!


    A federal judge in California has ruled in a Second Amendment case that a state-imposed waiting period to take possession of a firearm is a burden on the constitutional right to keep and bear arms.


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    Hell must have froze over.I would have thought a California judge didn't know there was such a thing as the 2nd amendment.
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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Hell must have froze over.I would have thought a California judge didn't know there was such a thing as the 2nd amendment.
    Exactly.

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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Summerwind View Post
    Yeah, well that's half the facts... It's because they've already gone through an approval process. In no way does it mean Californians can just go in a buy guns today or tomorrow without the usual California hoops to jump through.
    That's not what the judge ruled. That's not even what Gottlieb said.

    This was a denial of a motion for summary judgment, not a ruling in a case. The court denied summary judgment because the state had not shown a 10-day waiting period was presumptively consistent with the 2nd Amendment. It did not rule on that based on any prior "approval process."

    http://ia600803.us.archive.org/13/it...33362.44.0.pdf

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    Re: Judge says waiting period "burdens" the 2nd amendment

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    That's not what the judge ruled. That's not even what Gottlieb said.

    This was a denial of a motion for summary judgment, not a ruling in a case. The court denied summary judgment because the state had not shown a 10-day waiting period was presumptively consistent with the 2nd Amendment. It did not rule on that based on a prior "approval process."
    Well you can try to spin it that way, but that's not what the reading of the entire article represents. So who am I going to believe, you ranting, or the article that seems reasonably well written?
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