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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    And if Cruz did not go, the media left and Democrats would be raging:

    TED CRUZ BOYCOTTS MANDELA MEMORIAL
    Would have been preferrable, then the reply would have been all about the wisdom of sending a congressional delegation in the first place.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

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    >" A conservative estimate gives the range, according to Matthew White in his website Necrometrics, at between 5,000-12,000 Cubans killed by the Castro regime compared with Chileans killed by the Pinochet regime which number 3,197. Rudolph Joseph Rummel, a political science professor at the University of Hawaii and an expert in Democide (murder by government) also takes into account the Cuban boat people who have died fleeing the dictatorship and estimates 73,000 dead Cubans between 1959 and 1987. In The Black Book of Communism in chapter 25 "Communism in Latin America" by Pascal Fontaine states that in Cuba between 1959 through the late 1990s "between 15,000 and 17,000 people were shot." All these are conservative numbers. The Cuban Archives place the number at 100,000..."<

    Notes from the Cuban Exile Quarter: The Rising Body Count in Cuba
    Oh, he had a point. But it's not like he didn't know, and I doubt anyone noticed when he left. It's all about putting the name "Ted Cruz" in the headline.


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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    And if Cruz did not go, the media left and Democrats would be raging:

    TED CRUZ BOYCOTTS MANDELA MEMORIAL
    If he had said he wasn't going to go because of Castro, I could have accepted it. I can accept what he did here.

    He would have loved it either way as long as the headline said "Ted Cruz." Honestly, would we have even known he went if not for this headline?


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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    He has a point and a personal reason to do so. Was it also potentially a maneuver? Yeah. I'm not going to judge him all that much on this.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Oh, he had a point. But it's not like he didn't know, and I doubt anyone noticed when he left. It's all about putting the name "Ted Cruz" in the headline.
    I don't live in Florida but there are more than a few of the original Cuban refuges living on the Left Coast and they will not evolve, forget or forgive.

    My own opinion, I think our embargo on Cuba does more harm than good to the Cuban people. Lifting the sanctions and travel restrictions would probably speed of changes in Cuba.

    Maybe it's just me being greedy looking at all of those 1955 and 1956 Chevy's ? I would love buying them dirt cheap and bringing them back and refurbishing them. Since they were all made in America, there's no import duties on them.

    Will the Castro regime ever face justice for all of their crimes they committed, the thousands who were murdered ? Probably not.

    It's like the sanctions and embargo's on South Africa did speed up ending apartheid in South Africa, but it caused a lot of grief and made things worse for innocent black South Africans in the hundreds of thousands and also for companies in America and Europe in the billions of dollars.

    I've never traveled to Cuba, had chances to do so but it was against the law. The State Department was already getting suspicious why I kept reporting that my passport kept being lost. I can't travel around the world with deport stamps in my passport.

    But I have a family member and a few friends who unlawfully traveled to Cuba without a Cuban visa being stamped in their passports. The way most Americans did it, you went to Mexico City first and the Cuban Embassy would issue you a visa and if you were an American citizen they wouldn't stamp your passport so you wouldn't get in trouble with your own government.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    I think Ted Cruz needs to take a little history before making an idiotic gesture/statement. I dont think he remembers how Mandela and Castro are allies... [/FONT][/COLOR]
    Mandela and Castro being allies goes to show what a piece-a-**** Mandela really was
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I don't live in Florida but there are more than a few of the original Cuban refuges living on the Left Coast and they will not evolve, forget or forgive.

    My own opinion, I think our embargo on Cuba does more harm than good to the Cuban people. Lifting the sanctions and travel restrictions would probably speed of changes in Cuba.

    Maybe it's just me being greedy looking at all of those 1955 and 1956 Chevy's ? I would love buying them dirt cheap and bringing them back and refurbishing them. Since they were all made in America, there's no import duties on them.

    Will the Castro regime ever face justice for all of their crimes they committed, the thousands who were murdered ? Probably not.

    It's like the sanctions and embargo's on South Africa did speed up ending apartheid in South Africa, but it caused a lot of grief and made things worse for innocent black South Africans in the hundreds of thousands and also for companies in America and Europe in the billions of dollars.

    I've never traveled to Cuba, had chances to do so but it was against the law. The State Department was already getting suspicious why I kept reporting that my passport kept being lost. I can't travel around the world with deport stamps in my passport.

    But I have a family member and a few friends who unlawfully traveled to Cuba without a Cuban visa being stamped in their passports. The way most Americans did it, you went to Mexico City first and the Cuban Embassy would issue you a visa and if you were an American citizen they wouldn't stamp your passport so you wouldn't get in trouble with your own government.
    Do you not think there are enough '55 and '56 Chevys in the US?

    Everybody and their mother has one, '57s too.

    I don't think any of the Cuban cars are restorable. They have been modified just to keep them running for the past 50 years.

    You can find shells of just about any car in the US if you just look. It is also cheaper that transporting them across the water.

    What do you think the salty air has done to those '50s cars?

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Mandela and Castro being allies goes to show what a piece-a-**** Mandela really was
    What does use being allies with Saudi royals show? What does use being allies with Kuwait royals show? What does us being allies with the Shah show? What does us being allies with Batista show? What does us being allies with Pinochet show? What does us being allies with Bahrain show? What does us being allies with Mubarak show?


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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    What does use being allies with Saudi royals show? What does use being allies with Kuwait royals show? What does us being allies with the Shah show? What does us being allies with Batista show? What does us being allies with Pinochet show? What does us being allies with Bahrain show? What does us being allies with Mubarak show?
    Are any of those people commies? Of the people you listed, how many of them took American citizens hostage?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Are any of those people commies?
    Wait so it only matters about the label of what they call themselves? Just forget about the human rights record, right? What matters if they are those "dirty reds!"
    Am i correct in this assessment?

    Of the people you listed, how many of them took American citizens hostage?
    Did the US try to invade Cuba? Is the US harboring a man funded by the CIA who blew up a cuban airlane full of citizens?


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