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Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

Manc Skipper said:
It wasn't Fidel, it was his brother.
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he represents the continuance of the castro regime on the island. Seriously, for some who always act condescending, it's amazing how ideological and inherently dishonest you are
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
he represents the continuance of the castro regime on the island. Seriously, for some who always act condescending, it's amazing how ideological and inherently dishonest you are
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Even so, it wasn't exactly a state secret that Raul Castro was going to be there. Why did Ted Cruz go in the first place?

If you ask me, this was planned in advance.
 
Kobie said:
Even so, it wasn't exactly a state secret that Raul Castro was going to be there. Why did Ted Cruz go in the first place?
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because he wanted to?

If you ask me, this was planned in advance.
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If he did or not, what is the issue?
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
because he wanted to?

If he did or not, what is the issue?
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It's grandstanding and showboating at someone's memorial service, someone far more consequential in this world than Ted ****ing Cruz, and making things All About Ted.
 
Kobie said:
It's grandstanding and showboating at someone's memorial service, someone far more consequential in this world than Ted ****ing Cruz
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Maybe he just wanted to express his disapproval for the castro regime?


and making things All About Ted.
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now you sound like the wingnuts talking about obama
 
Kobie said:
And is Mandela's memorial service the place to do that?
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If Castro is in the same room, you bet.

It is sad you don't understand the depth of the feeling Cubans have about the Castros.

Why don't you go talk to some and then come back here and post about it.
 
Mason66 said:
If Castro is in the same room, you bet.

It is sad you don't understand the depth of the feeling Cubans have about the Castros.

Why don't you go talk to some and then come back here and post about it.
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I understand the depth of the feeling Cubans have about the Castros. Hell, the only reason we haven't broken the embargo is so as not to piss off the small but vocal Cuban electoral bloc in Miami-Dade.

That said, if Cruz wants to protest the mere presence of a Castro at the memorial service for one of the most admired people in the world, then he deserves all the criticism he gets for it. If he objected that much to Castro's presence, he should have stayed home.
 
Kobie said:
And is Mandela's memorial service the place to do that?
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Why not? it's not exactly disruptive or disrespectful.
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
he walked out while he was giving a speech
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Yes, he did. At a memorial service. For Nelson ****ing Mandela. His walkout was a political statement, and the time and place were inappropriate, in my humble opinion. It certainly was not some somber affair; however, it was also not a time to stage a political protest. YMMV.
 
Kobie said:
That's absurd.
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I'm sorry that you imagine that to be the case.

Once again, according to Nelson Mandela in 2003, "if there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America. They don't care for human beings."


This was after the 9-11 attacks and decades of our efforts to get him released from prison. Our President, who couldn't be bothered to attend Lady Thatcher's funeral, and the Congressmen had no business being at this farce, other that to avoid purely political and largely uninformed stage-managed "outrage."
 
Kobie said:
Yes, he did. At a memorial service. For Nelson ****ing Mandela. His walkout was a political statement, and the time and place were inappropriate, in my humble opinion. It certainly was not some somber affair; however, it was also not a time to stage a political protest. YMMV.
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what he did didn't interrupt anything nor can I see how it would be viewed as disrespectful. he simply left the room while someone he didn't like gave a speech
 
Twin Commie Hunters?

Twin Commie Hunters?


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Obviously I'm no fan of Teabagger Ted. His walking out had nothing to do with his Cuban heritage, Castro's civil rights abuses, etc, etc ad infinitum et nauseum. Ala McCarthy, it was a carefully orchestrated publicity stunt. In this case, it was to court anti-Castros, Cuban and otherwise, in preparation for his 2016 Presidential run (at which he will fail miserably). But it doesn't matter whether he's radical right or radical left or somewhere in the middle, and it doesn't matter what he, or anyone else, thinks of Mandela or Castro. He was there (on the taxpayer's dime, incidentally) to represent the US at the memorial of a man the world considered worthy of being memorialized. If he couldn't do that, he shouldn't have been there. It was not not the forum for doing what he did and it was totally inappropriate. He not only disrespected Castro, he disrespected Mandela, Mandela's family, friends and supporters and South Africa as a whole. And he embarrassed the US.

“Sen. Cruz very much hopes that Castro learns the lessons of Nelson Mandela,” Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told ABC News. Before calling the kettle black, Sen. Cruz needs to learn the lessons of Nelson Mandela - forgiveness and reconciliation.
 
What a contrast. Obama, the idiot, doing the wrong thing, and the brilliant Ted Cruz, doing the right thing. Yeah, shakes hands with a murderous dictator, that's what our moron president does. No wonder the world has no respect for him. Cruz is right, no need to sit there and listen to the murderer like you have some sort of respect for him. I'm surprised Obama didn't kneel and kiss his hand.
 
As Castro is referred to as a murderer, has the USA ever murdered here in the Western hemisphere ?
I wonder how the other seven billion residents of the Earth view the Presidents of the USA back to FDR .
Especially with Obama, how are drones viewed ??
Got mistakes maybe from one administration to another ?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
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I think Ted Cruz needs to take a little history before making an idiotic gesture/statement. I dont think he remembers how Mandela and Castro are allies... [/FONT][/COLOR]
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I'm no fan of Ted Cruz. I think he is extreme and irresponsible. That being said I don't mind this all that much. Cuba remains the only country in the Western Hemisphere that represses virtually all forms of political dissent and maintains scores (at least 90 perhaps as many as 150) political prisoners. That Castro extended a hand to Mandela doesn't change that Cuba is a one party dictatorship with an atrocious human rights record. A beleaguered people (Mandela and black South Africans) can seek help wherever they need it and I may choose not to pass censure depending on the circumstances. It doesn't mean I have to respect the people they sought help from.

Now I wouldn't want Obama to do this, it would be distracting and embarrassing, but I think it's not inappropriate for a US Senator to register his disapproval of a dictatorship by avoiding a speech.

PS: When I saw the thread title I was worried that he'd left to protest Mandela and I was like 'Oh God this sounds like the kind of retardation he would do'. I'm happy to be wrong.
 
Re: Twin Commie Hunters?

Similar, but worse IMO, than what the two Black athletes did in 1972 at the Mexico Olympics .
Shows how far backwords we've moved as a Nation .
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Twin Commie Hunters?


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Obviously I'm no fan of Teabagger Ted. His walking out had nothing to do with his Cuban heritage, Castro's civil rights abuses, etc, etc ad infinitum et nauseum. Ala McCarthy, it was a carefully orchestrated publicity stunt. In this case, it was to court anti-Castros, Cuban and otherwise, in preparation for his 2016 Presidential run (at which he will fail miserably). But it doesn't matter whether he's radical right or radical left or somewhere in the middle, and it doesn't matter what he, or anyone else, thinks of Mandela or Castro. He was there (on the taxpayer's dime, incidentally) to represent the US at the memorial of a man the world considered worthy of being memorialized. If he couldn't do that, he shouldn't have been there. It was not not the forum for doing what he did and it was totally inappropriate. He not only disrespected Castro, he disrespected Mandela, Mandela's family, friends and supporters and South Africa as a whole. And he embarrassed the US.

“Sen. Cruz very much hopes that Castro learns the lessons of Nelson Mandela,” Cruz spokeswoman Catherine Frazier told ABC News. Before calling the kettle black, Sen. Cruz needs to learn the lessons of Nelson Mandela - forgiveness and reconciliation.
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Sherman123 said:
PS: When I saw the thread title I was worried that he'd left to protest Mandela and I was like 'Oh God this sounds like the kind of retardation he would do'. I'm happy to be wrong.
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pretty minimal threshold of happiness
 
NIMBY said:
As Castro is referred to as a murderer, has the USA ever murdered here in the Western hemisphere ?
I wonder how the other seven billion residents of the Earth view the Presidents of the USA back to FDR .
Especially with Obama, how are drones viewed ??
Got mistakes maybe from one administration to another ?
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So, you think they are equal, what the Castros have done and what a non dictatorial regime does? You would be fine with U.S. leaders acting like that?
 
Sherman123 said:
I'm no fan of Ted Cruz. I think he is extreme and irresponsible.

PS: When I saw the thread title I was worried that he'd left to protest Mandela and I was like 'Oh God this sounds like the kind of retardation he would do'. I'm happy to be wrong.
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You just don't know Ted Cruz at all.
 
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