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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    What I have read about Rafael Bienvenido Cruz, Ted's father, was that as a teen he was imprisoned and tortured by Batista and when Castro came along he joined him and fought in the revolution. He became disillusioned with Castro when he started to confiscate private property and punishing dissent. In the 50's, he fled Cuba and was a rampant anti communist. I don't see how, as a son and as a Cuban American he had the obligation to sit though a speech presented by someone who had negatively impacted his family. I understand why he left and support his decision.
    I'm not questioning why he left or saying he necessarily had to stayed due to his personal objections. I'm just saying that under the circumstances based on why he was there, he should have exercised a higher level of decorum. That's all. Instead, his actions give the impression that he was only there to showboat. And in my opinion based on the nature of the event he attended and what his presence there represented, he should have swallowed his pride OR left sooner.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Who paid his fare to go there and not be noticed leaving? I would want a refund.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I understand your point of view, but I think you underestimate the felling Cubans have for the Castros.

    I haven't read anywhere that he knew Castro was going to be there or giving a speech.

    Have you seen that somewhere
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    No, and that's why I continue to preface my position on the matter with "if he knew" or "he had to have known" based on the fact that he was there as part of a presidential delegation. I can certainly sympathies with him. I just think his actions were prompted along the lines of being more self-serving than out of contempt.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    I'm not questioning why he left or saying he necessarily had to stayed due to his personal objections. I'm just saying that under the circumstances based on why he was there, he should have exercised a higher level of decorum. That's all. Instead, his actions give the impression that he was only there to showboat. And in my opinion based on the nature of the event he attended and what his presence there represented, he should have swallowed his pride OR left sooner.
    Or conversely, perhaps he felt it was important to express the dissatisfaction of Cuban Americans with the Castro regime. Obama has been involved in secret discussions with Cuba over normalization of relations or so I've read. Perhaps he left for Obama's benefit. I don't know but I understand his passion and could care less about his decorum.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Or conversely, perhaps he felt it was important to express the dissatisfaction of Cuban Americans with the Castro regime. Obama has been involved in secret discussions with Cuba over normalization of relations or so I've read. Perhaps he left for Obama's benefit. I don't know but I understand his passion and could care less about his decorum.
    At an extremely high profile memorial service in South Africa? That smacks of showboating.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    At an extremely high profile memorial service in South Africa? That smacks of showboating.
    Imagine you were at a memorial service for someone you most respected and a speaker rose who you thought was genuinely evil and that speaker had forced your family to leave their native country. Would you sit and listen to the bull**** or would you get your happy ass out of there. I know what I would do.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    At least there is one Politician in Washington who has some courage.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by sawdust View Post
    Imagine you were at a memorial service for someone you most respected and a speaker rose who you thought was genuinely evil and that speaker had forced your family to leave their native country. Would you sit and listen to the bull**** or would you get your happy ass out of there. I know what I would do.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It wasn't Fidel, it was his brother.
    Fidel and Raul fought in the revolution together and have wielded power in the government most of their adult lives.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    It wasn't Fidel, it was his brother.
    Have you seen any changes since Raul took over?

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