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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post


    Obama is none of the four.
    Did Obama tell you that ?

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Really? Is that the best you can do? That was a little weak.

    As for Obamacare...there's a lot of that will need to be fixed. The biggest problem with it is the Republican/Heritage foundation idea of the mandate. That is the biggest thing causing the problems...single payer would be best or even the public option, but we'll get there eventually.
    the mandate is essential to the plans functionality. You can't separate the two

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Did Obama tell you that ?
    Any reasonable look at the guy that's not through the Wingnut Perception Filter will tell you that.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Really? Is that the best you can do? That was a little weak.

    As for Obamacare...there's a lot of that will need to be fixed. The biggest problem with it is the Republican/Heritage foundation idea of the mandate. That is the biggest thing causing the problems...single payer would be best or even the public option, but we'll get there eventually.
    Truth is rarely weak... unless as interpreted so by those with the previously existing condition of feeble opinions. Maybe Obamacare has something for that, eh?

    Nah, as regards Obamadontcare, you and yours had your shot, you blew it... a complete and utter air ball. Probably lose the Senate in fairly dramatic fashion... we will more than retain the House, then override Oblahblahblah's veto, if any. Can you believe the country will have to live with that imbecile for three more years...he is clueless...

    Maybe that sign language guy can get a message through somehow, tho.
    "...But resist we much, we must and we will much, about that be committed..." --- the right Reverend Alfred Charles "Al" Shaprton, Jr.

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    the mandate is essential to the plans functionality. You can't separate the two
    Yes and no. The public option would have been a much better program and wouldn't have had all the problems inherent in the mandate. Because the party of NO refused to even seriously work on health care and because a handful of bluedogs wouldn't vote for the public option, we got the basic Republican plan....its a start, but it needs to be taken further.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Truth is rarely weak... unless as interpreted so by those with the previously existing condition of feeble opinions. Maybe Obamacare has something for that, eh?

    Nah, as regards Obamadontcare, you and yours had your shot, you blew it... a complete and utter air ball. Probably lose the Senate in fairly dramatic fashion... we will more than retain the House, then override Oblahblahblah's veto, if any. Can you believe the country will have to live with that imbecile for three more years...he is clueless...

    Maybe that sign language guy can get a message through somehow, tho.

    Good luck with that one. You obviously don't know much about politics outside what your right-wing radio pundits tell you. The reality is even in the unlikely event that the GOP takes the senate, you will not see a repeal. The Republicans know that by then people who have not be able to get healthcare for years will have it and the GOP isn't going to yank it away from them without consequences. They know that. But the reality is, the Republicans have as much of a chance of regaining the senate as Ted Cruz does of being elected President. In other words....aint ever gonna happen.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Yes and no. The public option would have been a much better program and wouldn't have had all the problems inherent in the mandate.
    Even with the public option, that was never seriously considered by the administration, anyway, how the ACA is constructed makes it vital to the system functioning. Without it, the entire way the system functions doesn't work


    Because the party of NO refused to even seriously work on health care and because a handful of bluedogs wouldn't vote for the public option, we got the basic Republican plan....its a start, but it needs to be taken further.
    While the republicans hardly added anything of merit to the HC debate, you don't seem to know what you are talking about: the public option was never seriously considered and was simply used as a bargaining chip by the admin. Not to mention, it has absolutely nothing to do with how the personal mandate functions within the ACA

    Truth about the public option momentarily emerges, quickly scampers back into hiding - Salon.com

    Truth Emerges about the Public Option : Columbia Journalism Review

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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Good luck with that one. You obviously don't know much about politics outside what your right-wing radio pundits tell you. The reality is even in the unlikely event that the GOP takes the senate, you will not see a repeal. The Republicans know that by then people who have not be able to get healthcare for years will have it and the GOP isn't going to yank it away from them without consequences. They know that. But the reality is, the Republicans have as much of a chance of regaining the senate as Ted Cruz does of being elected President. In other words....aint ever gonna happen.
    Fact is many of the ones, even the ones that voted for Oblablah, are being adversely affected. They were sold a bill of goods, now realizing their mistake... too many simply cannot afford the affordable care act. So...
    One of us is going to be surprised, of that we can be sure.

    Think I will look elsewhere for astute political predictions. Thanks anyhow.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Do you have any way to know Cruz knew Castro would be there?
    Let's not play this game, alright? Whenever the President travels abroad his security knows what dignitaries are slated to attend such functions much as they know who is likely to attend a UN summit meeting. And being that Sen. Cruz was part of the President's delegation, it's not unreasonable to assume he had to known Raul Castro might be in attendance. But like I said, I can sympathize with him, but he still acted inappropriately.
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    Re: Ted Cruz Walks Out Of Nelson Mandela Memorial Service In Protest

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective Voice View Post
    Let's not play this game, alright? Whenever the President travels abroad his security knows what dignitaries are slated to attend such functions much as they know who is likely to attend a UN summit meeting. And being that Sen. Cruz was part of the President's delegation, it's not unreasonable to assume he had to known Raul Castro might be in attendance. But like I said, I can sympathize with him, but he still acted inappropriately.
    He did not act inappropriately.

    Any other Cuban would have done the same.

    Like I asked before, would you stay to listen to a speech given by Osama Bin Laden if you have numerous family members die in the twin towers?

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