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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hysterical without evidence again?
    All the evidence and files found here NSA documents on games and virtual worlds - ProPublica
    More info found here: Xbox Live among game services targeted by US and UK spy agencies | World news | The Guardian
    And also here: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/10/wo...olls.html?_r=0


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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Those are all "may be" and "could be", according to incomplete documents leaked by a sub-human. Seems just the sort of source to get outraged about, for some people.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Those are all "may be" and "could be",
    How again are these "may be" and "could be". The documents were leaked!

    according to incomplete documents leaked by a sub-human.
    "incomplete"? 82 pages of very in depth about what to do while online, what to ask, etc, goes into very deep info.
    A "sub-human"?

    Seems just the sort of source to get outraged about, for some people.
    I forget everything is faux outrage if it does not satisfy you.
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    You can google and find claims left and right. Other than stories of a few employees violating the rules (and then getting disciplined or fired), there isn't anything real solid. So again, we wait for this great inside information you have.
    It's not inside information. You paid no attention to Ed Snowden. Also, the BRICS are creating their own independent Internet in direct response to the National Spy Agency compromising privacy. You missed Brazils presidents comments at the UN a couple months ago and the UTAH facility isn't as expansive as it is to listen to terrorists, nor have they thwarted anything, kinda like their cousin the Transportation Spy Agency.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It's not inside information. You paid no attention to Ed Snowden. Also, the BRICS are creating their own independent Internet in direct response to the National Spy Agency compromising privacy. You missed Brazils presidents comments at the UN a couple months ago and the UTAH facility isn't as expansive as it is to listen to terrorists, nor have they thwarted anything, kinda like their cousin the Transportation Spy Agency.
    So what you are saying (still), is you have no actual accounts of them doing what you claim… no down the the individual citizen, proof of anything. Thanks.
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So what you are saying (still), is you have no actual accounts of them doing what you claim… no down the the individual citizen, proof of anything. Thanks.
    No, that's not even close to what I said. Last time. I provided you a link with SPECIFICS and told you where you could go for all that you would need to keep you reading all night. It can be no simpler unless I came over and opened them for you.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No, that's not even close to what I said. Last time. I provided you a link with SPECIFICS and told you where you could go for all that you would need to keep you reading all night. It can be no simpler unless I came over and opened them for you.
    There were no specifics, there were no cases that showed the story of an individual 'wronged' by all of this.
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    There were no specifics, there were no cases that showed the story of an individual 'wronged' by all of this.
    What are you looking for, an Americans name? The PBS article would have been thousands of pages with individuals names instead of two pages giving you numbers. The spy apparatus extends to appliances, your automobile, x-box games and 30 million cameras posted around the country to keep eye on your every move. If your ok with this, then just say your ok with it. But for Pete's sake, stop pretending it isn't there!

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    What are you looking for, an Americans name? The PBS article would have been thousands of pages with individuals names instead of two pages giving you numbers. The spy apparatus extends to appliances, your automobile, x-box games and 30 million cameras posted around the country to keep eye on your every move. If your ok with this, then just say your ok with it. But for Pete's sake, stop pretending it isn't there!
    How can one be ok with nonsense conspiracy stuff?
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Are you suggesting that a private company should not be allowed to ask its customers if its all right to "spy" on them for their benefit? You mean to suggest that people shouldn't be free to accept the snooping of a private company they do business with? I agree a company should not impose it, but if a company offers it as a service then I should be free to accept the service or do business with a company that does (if I want such a thing).

    For example I bank with a local or so called "regional" bank. I like it that they shut my ATM down and call me when they think "SHTF" has happened and that purchases are being made with my card. They've saved me twice from hackers that obtained my ATM at the gas station. I'm all for freedom - including the freedom to choose snooping if I want the company I do business with to monitor things for my gain.


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is why I support a anti-spying amendment(which would also applies to companies as well) to supplement the 4th amendment. But it would probably be easier to strip funding from the NSA than to enact another amendment.

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