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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    How do you know all the secrets and continue to know all the secrets that must be secret from the rest of us?
    You're right, we can't know anything. Life is a blind guess, at best.




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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    What do you do for a living?
    I play World of Warcraft.
    That's awesome, you pwn!!
    For the NSA.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    You'd say that to every American that is upset about the N.S.A., an intelligence agency, gathering data on them? So you're cool with the N.S.A. collecting YOUR personal data? You probably don't care because you're a cheerleader for the government spying on us.
    What personal data? What spying?
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    By virtue of my prior job? I know you want someone to say "I don't" and then you come in and say something dumb, but this is more fun than even laughing at you for that.

    You're now arguing against what you think might be happening. No one can refute your imagination, dude. But that doesn't mean it's valid.
    What I'm refuting is your claim to total knowledge of the current system. This whole "they're doing nothing bad, I know, don't worry about it" line you keep throwing out seems completely unsupported. Even if you had worked for the NSA in some capacity, I highly doubt you were allowed access to all the secrets and I doubt even further that they send you a news letter to keep you apprised of current and future secrets. So your completely dismissive statements when people critique and criticize current action is moot. It is at very best just as dubious a claim as you say others have when talking of NSA action. You don't know. You at best have a small subset of knowledge, but of the whole? Doubtful. Of the whole currently? Certainly not.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What I'm refuting is your claim to total knowledge of the current system. This whole "they're doing nothing bad, I know, don't worry about it" line you keep throwing out seems completely unsupported. Even if you had worked for the NSA in some capacity, I highly doubt you were allowed access to all the secrets and I doubt even further that they send you a news letter to keep you apprised of current and future secrets. So your completely dismissive statements when people critique and criticize current action is moot. It is at very best just as dubious a claim as you say others have when talking of NSA action. You don't know. You at best have a small subset of knowledge, but of the whole? Doubtful. Of the whole currently? Certainly not.
    So you're just arguing against something that may or may not be happening? Like I said, I can't refute your imagination, dude.
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So you're just arguing against something that may or may not be happening? Like I said, I can't refute your imagination, dude.
    Nor can anyone refute your imagination, which is really the point here.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    They also targeting progressive and liberal groups to. So no they were doing their job, nice try tho. (but lets not derail this thread tho this is not abotu the IRS)
    I guess the NSA is just doing their job too.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Nor can anyone refute your imagination, which is really the point here.
    I'm not the one making up things that the NSA might be doing: that's you.
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm not the one making up things that the NSA might be doing: that's you.
    You're making up knowledge of the entire system. You do not know. You pretend to know, you tell everyone you know; but you do not. As I said, at very best your claim is just as dubious a claim as you say others have when talking of NSA action.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Must be a whole lot of people making **** up then.

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