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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    Yeah, we can all tell how well you've been indoctrinated.
    Haha yes
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    And obviously you were so high up that you had ALL the clearance, yeah? I mean, things are secret and need to be secret, but not from you right?

    How do you know? If things are secret and need to be secret how can you have knowledge of the entire system as it stands now. I mean "worked" there, yeah? They keep sending you updates after you were gone? It's wonderful that such a high level clearance government agent such as yourself frequents this board to keep us advised on the secrets the NSA continues to collect. lol
    Again,, if you don't even know what clearance means, why are you talking about this stuff?
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Except that is not what is happening and you know it. They are collecting millions of peoples phone records regardless if there is a connection to terrorists or not. The proper way to go about an investigation is to work backwards, not forwards. You start from someone you know is a terrorist and find the people that they are connected to. You do not violate peoples rights hoping to find a terrorist. Thats akin to torturing someone while hoping that you have the right person in order to stop a bomb from going off. Neither is the right thing to do.

    And I note that you can't deny anything else I said in that post.
    Exactly. What kind of mindset condones and endeavors so to cover up or distract from government wrong doing, especially on this scale. This is ridiculous to frame this as conspiracy theory. Americans across the board are expressing their concerns and outrage about this. Professors, constitutional lawyers, groups like freedom works, ACLU and plenty more, politicians from both sides of the isle AND FROM INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES, a SCOTUS judge, ex presidents, not to mention world leaders and citizens the world over, ALL are calling into question, calling for reform (Jim Sensenbrenner and others) and pushing for new legislation to back this up! There is NO defense for this.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    It's funny, the same characters that cheerlead for U.S. government spying on Americans always pop in to defend whatever acronymed agency that is in trouble FOR spying on Americans.

    They're the "Nothing to see here, now move along" clan.
    Employees past or present or some other undisclosed reason to be sympathizes of the ABC/Agency to work tirelessly in defense of the patently and hugely indefensible.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    In otherwords you can't prove their innocence.


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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Employees past or present or some other undisclosed reason to be sympathizes of the ABC/Agency to work tirelessly in defense of the patently and hugely indefensible.
    Or it's because those people know the reality and think people like you are downright delusional.
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Two points for Lucas. Everyone mentioned in post 173 are delusional, too one would suppose.

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Again,, if you don't even know what clearance means, why are you talking about this stuff?
    Because there is more than one level. You're talking of secrets being necessary and then claim to you know all the secrets. Seems a little fishy. Lol
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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Because there is more than one level. You're talking of secrets being necessary and then claim to you know all the secrets. Seems a little fishy. Lol
    There's three levels of clearance. If you're talking about accesses the question is raised: why are you so critical of these things if you don't even know enough about it to get the nomenclature right?

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    Re: The NSA's Reach Might Be Even Bigger Than We Thought

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    There's three levels of clearance. If you're talking about accesses the question is raised: why are you so critical of these things if you don't even know enough about it to get the nomenclature right?

    Step 1: Learn
    Step 2: Then criticize
    Why are you dodging the question. How do you know all the secrets and continue to know all the secrets that must be secret from the rest of us?
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