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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    China is not trying to start a war.
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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Of course they're not. They have a defensive military.

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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    President Obama went to Australia in Nov. 2011 and announced he would be stationing the Marines there and told east Asia, this is to let you know that the US is in town just incase China starts any ****. The Chinese president responded by telling his commanders to prepare for war. The US is building the largest military base EVER in Guam and in Dec. following Obama's announcement, Leon Panetta announced that the Pentagon would be moving 60% of its assets to the WestPac. What's developing in that region is no small thing.
    Putting one Marine rifle battalion in Australia, Obama is a military genius.

    And the biggest "military base ever" isn't being built on Guam. Japan issued it's eviction notice to Marine grunts of the 3rd Mar. Div. and it looks like they have to be billeted on Guam, not having any room for conducting training. Camp Pendleton is larger than the entire island of Guam.

    BTW: The reason why 1,200 Marines are being billited in Austrailia is because there's no room for them on Guam.

    But liberals in Congress have warned us that if we put to many Marines on Guam, that Guam would flip over and capsize.


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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Bigger than WWII, bwuahahahahahahah China couldn't even put together enough navy to outdo Normandy.
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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    President Obama went to Australia in Nov. 2011 and announced he would be stationing the Marines there and told east Asia, this is to let you know that the US is in town just incase China starts any ****. The Chinese president responded by telling his commanders to prepare for war. The US is building the largest military base EVER in Guam and in Dec. following Obama's announcement, Leon Panetta announced that the Pentagon would be moving 60% of its assets to the WestPac. What's developing in that region is no small thing.
    These are efforts to reinforce American presence in East Asia in response to China's growing regional power. This is exactly what I have been saying.

    This is modern diplomacy. It's all about potential bargaining and outcome. There is not going to be a war, these are classic elements of brinkmanship diplomacy. Please look at negotiations and conflicts between the U.S. and the Soviet Union to understand the creation of these contentions and how they are resolved.
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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    No country spends more than China on military save the US. And they aren't done, just recently they announced that their carrier group is comparable to the US. Not saying too much, but if the US had to defend Japan against China it won't be anything like fighting the other countries we've been kicking around over the last few decades.
    But the % of GDP is how you judge how aggressive they are spending, not the total.

    And the Chinese have only one aircraft carrier - the Liaoning.

    Chinese aircraft carrier Liaoning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    It's a refitted ex-Soviet ship that is over 25 years old and is no match for an American carrier.

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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Putting one Marine rifle battalion in Australia, Obama is a military genius.

    And the biggest "military base ever" isn't being built on Guam. Japan issued it's eviction notice to Marine grunts of the 3rd Mar. Div. and it looks like they have to be billeted on Guam, not having any room for conducting training. Camp Pendleton is larger than the entire island of Guam.

    BTW: The reason why 1,200 Marines are being billited in Austrailia is because there's no room for them on Guam.

    But liberals in Congress have warned us that if we put to many Marines on Guam, that Guam would flip over and capsize.

    Local residents' concerns, however, have been sidelined by the US-China strategic competition. China has significantly expanded its fleet during the past decade, seeking to deter the US from intervening militarily in any future conflict over Taiwan, which Beijing claims as its own, and to project power across disputed territories in the gas and oil-rich South China Sea.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-of-Guam.html

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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Moreover, there's a lot of different kinds of pressures that are below the surface. There's rumblings in Japan for "taking back" their military autonomy- or at least changing the security agreement to something more in line with what the ROK and the US share. Without question, China doesn't want this. So consider what China does in the background to keep Japan's security intertwined with the US: if they push to a point where the Japanese people are (figuratively) up in arms, they must trust that the US can "handle". If the US can't, and the Japanese people are angry, China will have created a new East Asian military competitor- something they certainly want to avoid.

    It's complicated- as the tapestry of international relations always is.
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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    US to build 8bn super base on Pacific island of Guam
    The US is building an 8 billion super military base on the Pacific island of Guam in an attempt to contain China's military build-up.


    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...d-of-Guam.html

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    Re: China and Japan would be foolish to war over "rocks" Sha Zukang

    Nothing you're posting is refuting anything that anyone said.
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