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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post

    Iraq got round-the-clock treatment the first few years, at which point it became largely an afterthought. We've been in Afghanistan for 12 years now. The media basically ignoring Afghanistan predates Obama.
    Actually, the news blew up with coverage over Iraq during the time of the surge when the heaviest fighting started taking place. There were daily updates on the number of dead for goodness' sakes. I just thought I'd see the same level of coverage when Obama launched his surge against Afghanistan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For starters, Newsweek hasn't been worth a bootful of warm piss in several years. It's been godawful since about 2005.

    Secondly ... huh?

    Woodward is a legend ... he's one of the guys who broke Watergate, for crying out loud. However, over the last 15 years or so, he's been little more than a toady who will kiss whoever's ass he has to in order to stay relevant. Then, of course, is the fact that he claimed that he received an email "threat" from the White House earlier this year, which turned out to be an absolute crock.
    Hey, I could of gone with the million or so "Jesus Obama" parodies, but thought this would be the best.

    My overall point is, that when you call the first book a blow job for Bush, doesn't that mean the second book should be seen in a more jaded light? I just thought at some point people were heralding him as a hero for his insights on the Bush White House is all.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Not true, but OK.

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    Your only "slightly liberal" so you're only allowed to say slightly not true.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Your* only "slightly liberal" so your* only allowed to say slightly not true.
    *--You're
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Your only "slightly liberal" so you're only allowed to say slightly not true.
    Was that suppose to be funny?

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Worth Noting - State of Denial was pretty critical of the lead-up to the war in Iraq. The picture it paints of the intramural fighting within the Bush administration and the lack of a deliberate policy making process is pretty daggum stark.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Worth Noting - State of Denial was pretty critical of the lead-up to the war in Iraq. The picture it paints of the intramural fighting within the Bush administration and the lack of a deliberate policy making process is pretty daggum stark.
    That's true; however, I think Bush at War, which came out first, so turned off liberals to Woodward that it was hard for him to salvage his rep with them.

    And that kind of infighting is hardly unique to Bush. That's one weird thing I've always read about government -- the different bureaus and divisions of a department of the federal government often hate each others' guts.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    That's true; however, I think Bush at War, which came out first, so turned off liberals to Woodward that it was hard for him to salvage his rep with them.
    Woodward, as all analysts are, is limited by available sources. We didn't really get the negative picture until afterwards, when the Administration began to crack and especially Powell started fighting the rest of the Principles. The idea that Woodward has to be either "anti" whatever Bush was or was for in order for him to have credibility is as stupid as the idea that he wasn't credible unless he was a cheerleader.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Woodward, as all analysts are, is limited by available sources. We didn't really get the negative picture until afterwards, when the Administration began to crack and especially Powell started fighting the rest of the Principles. The idea that Woodward has to be either "anti" whatever Bush was or was for in order for him to have credibility is as stupid as the idea that he wasn't credible unless he was a cheerleader.
    It wasn't that he wasn't "anti-Bush," it's that Bush At War was essentially fellatio.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It wasn't that he wasn't "anti-Bush," it's that Bush At War was essentially fellatio.
    That's a bit of a description without defense. 1. those prone to be more critical are naturally going to interpret non-critical material of being more supportive than it actually is and 2. "essentially fellatio"? Because he described Bush as decisive? one of the things about the guy is that he is decisive. It's a great trait in a leader in a time-constrained, low-information environment, which is pretty much a good description of what we saw looking out after 9/11, and can lead to premature conclusions in non-time-constrained environments, which is what the decision over Iraq turned out to be. That's not fellatio, that's describing a personality.

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    Re: Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh Believes Obama Lied about Syria

    Glad you posted the article link on the Yahoo a News is broken....shocking

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