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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    This is such a discombobulated OP.
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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    I could explain it, but you've already made up your mind.
    the actually war, no. I think it was fought ideally, our air power, a few SF and paramilitary on the ground and the Afghani's providing the ground troops. Outstanding. It reminded me of the time I spent in Laos from 1969-71. It was the nation building that perturbed me. Forcing a form of government on the Afgan's that they didn't want. From that start on it became a farce and a mess.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    the actually war, no. I think it was fought ideally, our air power, a few SF and paramilitary on the ground and the Afghani's providing the ground troops. Outstanding. It reminded me of the time I spent in Laos from 1969-71. It was the nation building that perturbed me. Forcing a form of government on the Afgan's that they didn't want. From that start on it became a farce and a mess.
    That's exactly how it should've been. Iraq? An invasion I can get behind. A geopolitical goal, a vision, etc. Just executed horribly by the Bush Administration. But Afghanistan? Pointless. Just dumb vengeance, nothing more. Should've just used SOF and air platforms to kill people as they flared up and left it at that.
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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That's exactly how it should've been. Iraq? An invasion I can get behind. A geopolitical goal, a vision, etc. Just executed horribly by the Bush Administration. But Afghanistan? Pointless. Just dumb vengeance, nothing more. Should've just used SOF and air platforms to kill people as they flared up and left it at that.
    I'm just the opposite. I understood Afghanistan since UBL and AQ were using Afghanistan as a training ground and safe haven. In order to get UBL and AQ we had to do something in Afghanistan and we did admirably, that is until we began nation building and inserted 150,000 troops to force the 18 tribes to accept democracy as their form of government. Iraq seem more a revenge type of operation. A preemptive war started by us.

    In Afghanistan if we let the tribes choose their own form of government there wouldn't have been any need for the nation building we done.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    This is such a discombobulated OP.
    For example...

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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    For example...
    I'm not sure what the smart card has to do with anything? I'm not sure why it isn't obvious why a war that's went on for 12 years isn't talked about as much as recent public policy? I'm not sure what even the point of the thread is. It's just...bizarre.
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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I'm not sure what the smart card has to do with anything? I'm not sure why it isn't obvious why a war that's went on for 12 years isn't talked about as much as recent public policy? I'm not sure what even the point of the thread is. It's just...bizarre.
    Then ask questions. Or move on.

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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Then ask questions. Or move on.
    ??? I can't just note is was discombobulated? Thanks for the suggestion, though.
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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Then ask questions. Or move on.
    Why has Afghanistan OPIUM production increased under USA stewardship? Under the Taliban in 2002 production was 290 tons per year. Under USA stewardship production has increased to over 10,000 tons per year. We, the USA, obviously are encouraging and protecting the production. Would that be big CORPORATE Pharma's contribution to our well-being? Could the USA be the World's biggest drug dealer? What does recent history say i.e., Noriega, Iran/Contra (coke for arms), Phoenix Program, Corporate Banking in America laundering drug money, and the list goes on. There is rot on the vine. Systemic. Sleazy.

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    Re: Afghanistan: Talking Points US Troops

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    ??? I can't just note is was discombobulated? Thanks for the suggestion, though.
    Yes, if you have an opinion, support it with an argument. THis is a debate forum, not a comment section.

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