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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Yikes, better implement my plan post haste. Actually, if I knew you and your stance on things a bit better, I might just trust you. But with what you have said in this thread, I have my grave doubts now.

    So tell me, what exactly was it that Obama was doing during all those hours during the Benghazi attacks. Who gave the orders to stand down... or who was it that didn't order planes and additional security forces over there to at least scare the holy crap outta those rabid AQ types that killed our ambassador and three other brave Americans. None of that is or should be classified even...

    And what about those 28 pages...?
    We went over the 28 pages. I don't care about Benghazi and it's not the topic.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    We went over the 28 pages. I don't care about Benghazi and it's not the topic.
    We didn't go over jack didley with regards to those 28 pages... I know nothing more about them now than when the OP started this merry go round. Just circular logic that never goes anywhere, too close-too far, oversight this oversight that, you interpret what I am saying incorrectly several times as, it seems now, in an effort to put me off the actual point, never giving once into anything solid, just the mantra, "trust your government, trust your government, trust your government..you elected them...." like a bad dream.

    No wonder we don't trust our government. And there have been way too many instances where the people who knew, who should have said something, didn't... and we found out way way after the fact. What we need is a fail-safe, but we got none.

    You know, if we, the people, lose faith in the integrity of the system, the system fails anyhow.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    We didn't go over jack didley with regards to those 28 pages...
    I told you that they cover either sources or means and method of intelligence collection (or both). That's why things get classified.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I told you that they cover either sources or means and method of intelligence collection (or both). That's why things get classified.
    That, an obfuscating answer, is eerily similar to your other hollowed out answers. What you call going over the 28 pages is you saying nothing can be said about them... Don't know where or how you grew up, but that sure isn't going over over the 28 pages to my satisfaction.

    By not answering, conceding the integrity collapses, system collapses posit? Now being past the trust your govt blah blah,... exactly where does it go from there?
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Do it. Its about time we heard the whole truth. And it is also about time that Obama was transparent.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    That, an obfuscating answer, is eerily similar to your other hollowed out answers. What you call going over the 28 pages is you saying nothing can be said about them... Don't know where or how you grew up, but that sure isn't going over over the 28 pages to my satisfaction.
    That's not obfuscating, that's an answer. Your satisfaction isn't really important. Things aren't randomly made public just because you're curious.

    By not answering, conceding the integrity collapses, system collapses posit? Now being past the trust your govt blah blah,... exactly where does it go from there?
    It goes nowhere. It doesn't need to. You vote for leaders, they appoint people and hire them and whatnot. That's the system. You just don't like it. That's all.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That's not obfuscating, that's an answer. Your satisfaction isn't really important. Things aren't randomly made public just because you're curious.



    It goes nowhere. It doesn't need to. You vote for leaders, they appoint people and hire them and whatnot. That's the system. You just don't like it. That's all.
    Sure its obfuscating...you flat out said we can't get an answer, yes, but you also put it like this:
    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    We went over the 28 pages.
    making it sound, implying as if we had, indeed, resolved what was in them. No, I agree, my individual satisfaction may not be important, most obviously not to you... but our, we, the American public's satisfaction is obligatory.

    If it was just and worked, I would like it. I don't like systems prone to corruption. The one we rely upon should move in sync with the people, not the people being dragged blindly towards what they do not know. The people in power should always be aware, they are accountable to us. The inverted pyramid, we its girth, the solid weight above the point chiseling, then carrying out our laws. Our will, not theirs.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaugingcatenate View Post
    Sure its obfuscating...you flat out said we can't get an answer, yes, but you also put it like this:making it sound, implying as if we had, indeed, resolved what was in them. No, I agree, my individual satisfaction may not be important, most obviously not to you... but our, we, the American public's satisfaction is obligatory.

    If it was just and worked, I would like it. I don't like systems prone to corruption. The one we rely upon should move in sync with the people, not the people being dragged blindly towards what they do not know. The people in power should always be aware, they are accountable to us. The inverted pyramid, we its girth, the solid weight above the point chiseling, then carrying out our laws. Our will, not theirs.
    We went over the topic. They're classified because of sources and methods and/or means. The topic was covered.

    Who do you think works in these agencies? Some mythical, monolithic "them"? They're just regular people, doing a job.
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    Re: New House Resolution Calls for Declassifying Secret Portion of 9/11 Report

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    They're classified because of sources and methods and/or means.
    1) Do you know that for a fact?
    2) Do you know the section of the report that is classified?

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