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Obama plans new limits on NSA surveillance

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President Barack Obama said Thursday that he'll be reining in some of the snooping conducted by the National Security Agency, but he did not detail what new limits he plans to impose on the embattled spy organization."I'll be proposing some self-restraint on the NSA. And...to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence, " Obama told Chris Matthews in an interview recorded for MSNBC's "Hardball."
The president insisted that the NSA's work shows respect for the rights of Americans, but he conceded that its activities are often more intrusive when it comes to foreignerscommunicating overseas.
"The N.S.A. actually does a very good job about not engaging in domestic surveillance, not reading people's emails, not listening to the contents of their phone calls. Outside of our borders, the NSA's more aggressive. It's not constrained by laws," Obama said.
The president pointed to an outside panel he set up in August to look into how the government was collecting surveillance data in the era of 'big data.' The five-member group is set to deliver its final report to Obama by Dec. 15.
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Read more @: President Barack Obama plans new limits on National Security Agency surveillance - POLITICO.com

Just a tiny tiny tiny bit of good news. But does not go far enough, not far enough at all. What about all the surveillance at home? I suspect not a whole lot will change also with overseas data gathering as well.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
What about all the surveillance at home?
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From your quote of the article:

"The N.S.A. actually does a very good job about not engaging in domestic surveillance, not reading people's emails, not listening to the contents of their phone calls..." Obama said.
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"We're going to make you think we stopped, but really we're just going to start calling it something else and continue what we were doing"
 
Microsoft announcing that they are going to become more proactive in protecting against this is probably the driving factor. I suspect it sent chills down the intelligence community's spine. There was a time when there was a technology embargo on MS encrypted products being exported overseas so that they were always a generation behind the US in terms of security. Somewhere or another I recall hearing that Microsoft had reached a gentleman's agreement with the CIA not to enhance their encryption significantly beyond the level they were at as MS wanted the embargo gone to up sales and the CIA did not want bad guys being beyond their electronic reach. It created a long lag between 128 and 256 bit encryption. I am guessing that a 384 or 512 bit encryption as standard out of the box software would throw a huge wrench in the intelligence world's current methods.
 
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Obama says, "I'll be proposing some self-restraint on the NSA. And...to initiate some reforms that can give people more confidence."

What Obama means, "I'm calling on the N.S.A. NOT to be caught red-handed again during my Presidency. I expect the N.S.A. Director to run a tighter ship and enforce stricter information control methods."
 
Fisher said:
Microsoft announcing that they are going to become more proactive in protecting against this is probably the driving factor. I suspect it sent chills down the intelligence community's spine. There was a time when there was a technology embargo on MS encrypted products being exported overseas so that they were always a generation behind the US in terms of security. Somewhere or another I recall hearing that Microsoft had reached a gentleman's agreement with the CIA not to enhance their encryption significantly beyond the level they were at as MS wanted the embargo gone to up sales and the CIA did not want bad guys being beyond their electronic reach. It created a long lag between 128 and 256 bit encryption. I am guessing that a 384 or 512 bit encryption as standard out of the box software would throw a huge wrench in the intelligence world's current methods.
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Gee. Thanks.

How about...gut the unconstitutional agency. That's a novel concept :roll:
 
He will expand it if it works in his favor.
 
Hiram said:
He will expand it if it works in his favor.
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Of course. When a con or etc does it, it will be condemned by the same man. Some are more equal than others I suppose. Damn us all to hell.
 
Yes and the Me Me's of the world Make the best Politicians along with a large dose of Narcissism. Ever wonder why those who are not selfish never go into Politics? Now you have the answer!
 
Fisher said:
Microsoft announcing that they are going to become more proactive in protecting against this is probably the driving factor. I suspect it sent chills down the intelligence community's spine. There was a time when there was a technology embargo on MS encrypted products being exported overseas so that they were always a generation behind the US in terms of security. Somewhere or another I recall hearing that Microsoft had reached a gentleman's agreement with the CIA not to enhance their encryption significantly beyond the level they were at as MS wanted the embargo gone to up sales and the CIA did not want bad guys being beyond their electronic reach. It created a long lag between 128 and 256 bit encryption. I am guessing that a 384 or 512 bit encryption as standard out of the box software would throw a huge wrench in the intelligence world's current methods.
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Have notice that Google search is https?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Read more @: President Barack Obama plans new limits on National Security Agency surveillance - POLITICO.com
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Blah, blah, blah.

This is all, IMO, just a smoke screen to appease the ignorant, gullible masses.

They will have committees and groups and they will come out with all these cozy sounding findings and recommendations that they will 'immediately implement'.

But in the end, all that will happen is they will bury the NSA deeper into the government.

I tell you one thing they will change...they will make it a lot harder for heroes like Edward Snowden to tell the public what really goes on...that is the only real change that will occur.

The government LOVES all this NSA surveillance - if they could get away with a TON more, they would in a heartbeat.
Major federal politicians from both parties find the Constitution an annoyance - something that stops them from doing what they want to do...which is anything they feel like under the guise of 'whatever we do - ANYTHING - is always in America's best interests because we ALWAYS know what is best for America'.
 
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