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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I'm not the one backing the failure. You're a cold hearted man, millions lose their healthcare... I like that slogan though. "ACA is LAW, DEAL with IT!" That should be the DNC platform!
    You are trying to play the CON game but this is where YOU claim 'millions lose their healthcare', not me- semantics my 4th POC!

    I have had private insurance for decades, i've had friends go bankrupt for all the not covered parts of routine medical procedures- surgeries are the worst! I'd much rather meet the 12K family deductible and then be covered 100% than my old plan, which had a high deductible as well, that ONLY covered the gas passer at 20% of the surgeon's rate and his assist at 40%. (that is how my buddy went bankrupt- those two guys and the over the coverage amount for the hospital stay itself ruined him.

    The best I can say about the insurance CONs sing the praises of is it gives the doctor's and hospital at least some of their money where an uninsured person is a true crap shoot on collection.

    Nice try but you deny what you yourself posted and obviously have no clue what the old insurances covered- and far more to the point- what they didn't.

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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    I used healthcare as in insurance. People ARE.losing their insurance and being forced on to plans that may not meet thier economic or healthcare needs. Keep playing word games, you are losing
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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I used healthcare as in insurance. People ARE.losing their insurance and being forced on to plans that may not meet thier economic or healthcare needs. Keep playing word games, you are losing
    LMAO, now who is the tap dancing crocodile???? YOU just claimed to not have used the word HEALTHCARE and when shown your own words try and dodge away- typical.

    There is this word 'INSURANCE' and this word 'HEALTHCARE'- they are NOT interchangeable but the CONs are trying to do just that, slide one word in for another to try and hype the situation. Just the CON game come to town. HEALTHCARE exists with or without INSURANCE- you and the other CONs are trying to twist the truth.

    More CONery from you- vague claims with no facts- 'may not meet'???? YOU are playing the word game and losing badly!

    I know many Americans who thought their old INSURANCE was good would be ruined by a major HEALTHCARE issue. You make up a false threshold with the deductible as most old insurance plans have rather high deductibles, co-pays on most things, and a co-insurance scale after the deductible is met with BIG lapses in some key areas. (the hospital, HEALTHCARE, was under NO obligation to accept the INSURANCE company's level for all services/labor (HEALTHCARE) and WILL bill the patient for the difference, many folks who thought they were covered get a supplemental bill for everything the INSURANCE company didn't cover )

    I have a good deal of experience negotiating with INSURANCE companies on plans, with Hospitals and doctors (HEALTHCARE) on billing- save your very ill-informed opinion, and no HEALTHCARE isn't the same as INSURANCE. One is medical treatment, the other is one way you pay for it....

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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

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    You know that is different right?
    Totally different. After all, It's a wedding, anniversary, or birthday. Not Christmas.


    Both sides have tasteless members that have attempted to insert supporting political campaigns where they don't belong. nor, apparently is it "political suicide" to do so.

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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Totally different. After all, It's a wedding, anniversary, or birthday. Not Christmas.


    Both sides have tasteless members that have attempted to insert supporting political campaigns where they don't belong. nor, apparently is it "political suicide" to do so.
    That sums up the issue very well, and without hype or accusations about whose "side" is worse. Good job.
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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Totally different. After all, It's a wedding, anniversary, or birthday. Not Christmas.


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    No. The big difference being is that the person receiving gifts is asking for that to be a gift, not asking a person to give a donation in someone's honor.
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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Reminds me of when Obama asked all of his supporters to forgo wedding gifts and birthday presents in favor of Obama campaign donations.
    See ... first they find out the guy who did it was fired and now you have to go and spoil it with that.

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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    You ever seen one of those news articles that, no matter your political leaning, just pisses you off? Well, I found one:

    Gov. Walker Urges Parents to Skip Toys and Send the Christmas Money to Him

    That's right folks! Gov. Walker (Rep) of Wisconsin wants you to send that money you planned to spend for toys, to his political campaign. This is what the campaign email said:



    Just... wow.
    What a misleading headline. I wonder how the Obama campaign would react if one of their staffers said something stupid and the quote was attributed to Obama? Whoever wrote the headline would probably never work in the news again.

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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    No. The big difference being is that the person receiving gifts is asking for that to be a gift, not asking a person to give a donation in someone's honor.
    yeah, that's totally different. Because one is asking people to prioritize Support Of The Leader over family celebrations and private exchanges, and the other is asking people to...... well, prioritize the Support of The Leader I LIKE over family celebrations and private exchanges

    So... yeah. Totally different



    No. Both are crass.

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    Re: Gov. Walker Ask Supporters To Not Spend Xmas Money on Toys; Send it to Him

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    yeah, that's totally different. Because one is asking people to prioritize Support Of The Leader over family celebrations and private exchanges, and the other is asking people to...... well, prioritize the Support of The Leader I LIKE over family celebrations and private exchanges

    So... yeah. Totally different



    No. Both are crass.
    You just don't want to see it.

    Don't you see a difference in asking someone to donate in your name, rather than donating for someone in their name?
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