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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    He has a point. The senate has the power to amend, add, change, delete anything from those appropriations bills it likes or doesn't like. But in a way Reid is the obstructionist. He would much rather table all those bills than do what the senate is suppose to do with them. If he doesn't like something in a bill, delete it, add what he wants. It is actually the duty of the senate to do this rather than table all those bills. You wouldn't see a Byrd, a Mitchell or even a Daschel doing what Reid has done. The former three knew the senate's duty, the later one apparently does not.

    But an ideal congress would be one that just passes the mandatory stuff and nothing else.
    The "latter one" you refer to is apparently following the wishes of his boss, to whom party is more important than the good of the country, as we have seen. Reid is trying to keep the Senate in Democrat hands, and is adopting every means he can to help fellow Dems who face reelection in competitive States, where Obamacare may be a problem, hence his idea of using the nuclear option on voting in the Senate. Having a boss who publicly calls Repubs the "enemy" certainly doesn't hurt his case, since they both seem to think the same way! Meh!

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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Please make a note of this post as being as positive and honest as I can be..
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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    i get the impression that business's hate the epa for its regulations. but no one can seriously be against keeping our drinking water clean and unpolluted?
    I would suggest your assumption is correct. Too often the response to calls to reign in the EPA is met with the absurd response about something like Love Canal, and support for deadly pollution.

    However, the EPA has grown far, far beyond it's original charter. It's a super agency capable of chartering to course of this country through regualatory fiat.

    For example, next year, the EPA will unleash their "Environmental Justice" program.

    Details are here: Environmental Justice | US EPA

    This plan, which citizens will be hard pressed to stop, will be put into play, and there is nothing citizens can do to stop it.

    That's the problem with the transformation to a Progressive Government run through regualtory rulings forced upon society by "Professional" regulators.

    One had better hope they like whoever is running the regulatory ship, because the isn't much that can be done about it.

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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    Yea Bohner... Youve done "your work" by not doing anything, and by being the most obstructive congress ever. Good job! Something to be real "proud" of. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    I'm cool with it. I'm cool with them doing as little as possible, except they didn't totally and irreversibly destroy Obamacare. Congress tends to ****up everything they touch. The less they do the better. I'm sure you're all about passing as many laws as possible. Well I'm sorry we didn't achieve the socialist dictatorship you dream of in one year. Better luck next time.
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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    which is something that certain media loving politicians cannot survive without these days.
    I suppose you are right. The ones who do all the work are the ones you rarely hear from. The loud mouths give all other politicians a bad name.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Then you're good with the House only working 114 days next year, 12 less than this year..
    Not to mention all the lost days when the House refuses to match up with ANY Senate schedule .
    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I'm cool with it. I'm cool with them doing as little as possible, except they didn't totally and irreversibly destroy Obamacare. Congress tends to ****up everything they touch. The less they do the better. I'm sure you're all about passing as many laws as possible. Well I'm sorry we didn't achieve the socialist dictatorship you dream of in one year. Better luck next time.
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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    I would suggest your assumption is correct. Too often the response to calls to reign in the EPA is met with the absurd response about something like Love Canal, and support for deadly pollution.

    However, the EPA has grown far, far beyond it's original charter. It's a super agency capable of chartering to course of this country through regualatory fiat.

    For example, next year, the EPA will unleash their "Environmental Justice" program.

    Details are here: Environmental Justice | US EPA

    This plan, which citizens will be hard pressed to stop, will be put into play, and there is nothing citizens can do to stop it.

    That's the problem with the transformation to a Progressive Government run through regualtory rulings forced upon society by "Professional" regulators.

    One had better hope they like whoever is running the regulatory ship, because the isn't much that can be done about it.
    um, this is from the epa's link you provided.

    Plan EJ 2014 is not a rule or regulation. It is a strategy to help integrate environmental justice into EPA's day to day activities.
    and i all i can find is progress reports and action plans, i don't see anything that indicates that the EPAS intent is motivated by malice.
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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    The "latter one" you refer to is apparently following the wishes of his boss, to whom party is more important than the good of the country, as we have seen. Reid is trying to keep the Senate in Democrat hands, and is adopting every means he can to help fellow Dems who face reelection in competitive States, where Obamacare may be a problem, hence his idea of using the nuclear option on voting in the Senate. Having a boss who publicly calls Repubs the "enemy" certainly doesn't hurt his case, since they both seem to think the same way! Meh!
    I had hopes Obama would have learned from Clinton when he lost the congress in 1994. Clinton switched strategies and tactics very quickly and became very adept at getting his agenda through congress. Obama didn't learn a thing from Billy boy after 2010 happened. The most successful presidents at getting their agenda through congress are the ones who work across the aisle and have one or two people, perhaps more in the opposition party that they can go to when the things get tough. I am afraid this current president has burned all his bridges there. Reid didn't help matters with the nuclear option either.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Please make a note of this post as being as positive and honest as I can be..
    LOL, I got you. I don't mind you rants and raves, when you are in that mood I usually leave you alone. You got quite a head on your shoulders as far as politics go when not ranting and raving. A knowledge I like to pick and harvest.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: John Boehner On 113th Congress Being Least Productive Ever: 'We've Done Our Work'

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I had hopes Obama would have learned from Clinton when he lost the congress in 1994. Clinton switched strategies and tactics very quickly and became very adept at getting his agenda through congress. Obama didn't learn a thing from Billy boy after 2010 happened. The most successful presidents at getting their agenda through congress are the ones who work across the aisle and have one or two people, perhaps more in the opposition party that they can go to when the things get tough. I am afraid this current president has burned all his bridges there. Reid didn't help matters with the nuclear option either.
    it seems to me that the only thing that would satisfy the most vocal conservative critics is for obama to govern as a far right president and destroy the liberal institutions he supports.
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