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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
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    Say it ain't so, Pippi
    Books like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn have long been banned in many schools and libraries over alleged racism. Could Pippi Longstocking be next? According to one theologian, Astrid Lindgren's classic children's novels about the pig-tailed adventurer feature unsavory "colonial racist stereotypes." Pippi joins a long list of surprising children's characters who have been accused of racism. From Babar to the Smurfs, here's a look:

    Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters - The Week
    Might as well burn them all...
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    That is exactly the point. They don't see Babar as the story of an elephant who was "civilized" by the Europeans and then came back to rule just like Europeans would. Tin Tin? Just another European explorer who gets the benefit of being carried around by Africans. The analysis a child gives to these is so simple that they don't even question why it is that Babar is civilized but elephants raised in Africa are not. The books explain it with "He went to Europe".

    Ever, perpetuating the myth that Europeans civilized anyone. That's what these books do. They perpetuate myths and negative attitudes where Europeans are the good guys and everyone else is simply a big dumb-dumb. Ignoring the very real massacres, colonizations, destruction of cultures behind the stories. They're no different than France's bigoted depictions towards Americans. We don't teach those, do we? Of course not. They don't affect us. As long as the depictions are negative towards cultures we don't care about, it's fine.
    In the newer Disney collections they have done great things with their more questionable and risky output. Opening each film with a small segment that puts it into historical and social context and ultimately using those elements that would make many want to ban them to drive discussions about such things as racism, nationalism, and xenophobia. Personally, I can see no better tools for teaching children about these topics, especially when they serve as a vehicle to put them into terms the child can already relate to

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope. But it has an "S". Just like apdst. Spurious comparisons are fun! Remember! Goebbels had common sense! If you have common sense! You're Joseph Goebbels! Humor? You're Hitler. You eat noodles? You're Mao! Lol. Seriously yo, quit the nonsensical comparisons. You'll get called on it every time. Because you're a conservative right?
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If you support book burning, then that's for you to deal with mirroring the National Socialists.
    You just used the word "books". You know who else used the word books? Hitler.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d2a_1273833689

    New game. When you use the word "Nazi" in a spurious manner, we're all taking a shot.
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You just used the word "books". You know who else used the word books? Hitler.
    He even wrote one!

    Why do so many conservatives feel they can just slap a swastika on something they don't like and call that analysis?
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    The books "have colonial racist stereotypes," says Dr. Eske Wollrad, a feminist theologian.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He even wrote one!

    Why do so many conservatives feel they can just slap a swastika on something they don't like and call that analysis?
    Because the Nazis loved complicated analysis of complicated topics? Do anything Nazis hate.
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Gathomas88 View Post
    Yeah, that's what you'll find. A post-colonial feminist scholar is nothing out of the ordinary. That's where much of the energy has been over the past 20 years.
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yeah, that's what you'll find. A post-colonial feminist scholar is nothing out of the ordinary. That's where much of the energy has been over the past 20 years.
    Fair enough. However, I'm still not exactly sure why anyone would take a theologian's opinion on what is or is not culturally acceptable seriously, let alone one of the "feminist" variety.

    The title is nonsensical post-modern word salad in and of itself.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    criticism and analysis are great things, banning them from access is another step altogether, IMO. In fact, the later tends to make the former more difficult
    Certainly so, but in the examples shown, there had been fewer calls to restrict access than one would have expected. The first link in with Pippi had the scholar suggest that there was much to like from Pippi and that banning wasn't really her intention. Having families aware of the stories, willing to restrict access to their children, sure. That's not out of the ordinary. Tintin in Belguim, however, had calls to remove from school children access, if I recall correctly.
    Michael J Petrilli-"Is School Choice Enough?"-A response to the recent timidity of American conservatives toward education reform. https://nationalaffairs.com/publicat...-choice-enough

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